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Firefox Android now supports Tampermonkey

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Re: Firefox Android now supports Tampermonkey

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Post by dTal »

tsbinz wrote: post #88
crashmat wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

so the newer version isn't even at all based on the one before 2.9? seems unlikely

If you own the rights to software, you previously releasing something under the GPL does not mean you have to make derived versions of the thing you released under the GPL available under the GPL too. If you take someone else's code under the terms of the GPL you have to do that, but that does not seem to have happened here.

That assumes that nobody contributed to the software while it was GPL, unless there was an explicit contractual copyright transfer.

Re: Firefox Android now supports Tampermonkey

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Post by alin23 »

proc_guts_fan wrote: post #81

If anyone needs a "monkey" not for web pages but for any process on your computer system, may I recommend Frida: https://frida.re https://github.com/frida/frida With Frida, you write JavaScript programs and then inject them into arbitrary processes, to hook and modify and call whatever you please. It gets a lot of use in the reverse engineering and vulnerability research communities, but has broader scope too. For in…

Second that, I love Frida! I recently wrote about how I used it to reverse engineer the MacBook’s clamshell mode, and add it in Lunar (https://lunar.fyi)

There’s a few extra steps in allowing Frida to work on macOS so leaving that here in case others might be interested in how to do it: https://alinpanaitiu.com/blog/turn-off-macbook-display-clams...

Re: Firefox Android now supports Tampermonkey

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Post by account42 »

dTal wrote: post #121
tsbinz wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you own the rights to software, you previously releasing something under the GPL does not mean you have to make derived versions of the thing you released under the GPL available under the GPL too. If you take someone else's code under the terms of the GPL you have to do that, but that does not seem to have happened here.

That assumes that nobody contributed to the software while it was GPL, unless there was an explicit contractual copyright transfer.

It only assumes that there were no copyrightable contributions that weren't replaced as before the license change. Not all code changes meet the criteria for copyright.

Re: Firefox Android now supports Tampermonkey

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Post by fhd2 »

Laaas wrote: post #107
xPaw wrote: post #82

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It really is bizzare, old Firefox used to support all addons, then they shipped a new version and only allowed like 10 addons, and to this day they don't allow any more. It's already been years. I know my addon works fine on mobile, but they provide no means of specifying that*. I tried to email them for it to become "recommended" but never heard back. The fact that they allow tampermonkey which allows any kind of sc…

Mozilla has been going down a bizarre path for a while. If only Brendan Eich could have stayed at Mozilla instead of getting excommunicated, then we'd have the best of Brave and Firefox. (What _really_ showed me Mozilla is going crazy is when they fired sunfishcode (IIRC) and the Servo team! Both were essential to their success. It makes little sense.)

I agree, Mozilla has been on a very weird path since then.

Not sure Eich would have made a positive difference though. Brave's main claim to fame is that they took Chromium and added an ad blocker. At the same time, they dabble(d?) in injecting ads and crypto, to just name the shady things I know about.

I suppose there just isn't much money in building a non-compromising browser, and Mozilla is struggling with this pretty publicly.

Re: Firefox Android now supports Tampermonkey

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Post by galangalalgol »

wkat4242 wrote: post #80
Synaesthesia wrote: post #66

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Playing devil's advocate here, don't they need to protect their users from nefarious add ons that could steal data?

Sure but give them a choice. I don't want to be 'protected' from myself.

And the people that do, probably aren't running firefox for android

Re: Firefox Android now supports Tampermonkey

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Post by 2Gkashmiri »

Operative0198 wrote: post #98
vorticalbox wrote: post #90

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you're just replacing Mozilla telemetry with Google telemetry.

The difference is Chrome atleast gives you the choice (maybe illusion?) to opt-out of *some of the telemetry. Mozilla to-date refuses to build a one button switch to disable all telemetry [0] and there's calls to telemetry domains such as location.services.mozilla.com you cannot stop on some of their products like Firefox Focus (ironic for a privacy product). [0] https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/domains-allow-fir…

so you are willing to accept chrome on android that does not have any extensions so you cant have UBO and you have ads and scripts and all the BS of unprotected interent but you fear firefox telemetry. nice

Re: Firefox Android now supports Tampermonkey

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Post by krageon »

Synaesthesia wrote: post #66
LightHugger wrote: post #60

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Ah yes, an addon whitelist. How very community friendly of Mozilla... And they wonder why their market share plummets the way it does, making such extremely user hostile decisions like that.

Playing devil's advocate here, don't they need to protect their users from nefarious add ons that could steal data?

If I protect you by taking away your house keys so you can't have them stolen and abused, does that make me a good person? Is it a good reason to begin with?
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