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Re: Firefox Android now supports Tampermonkey

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Greasemonkey was the good one and then something happened with it and it was no longer the best choice. I'm not sure what. The same repeated with Tampermonkey. It now has telemetry built into it, at one time w/ no privacy policy. https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/6hs59w/tampermonke... The good one now is Violentmonkey. Has been for some time. Does Mozilla have an allowlist for these? If so I don't like it.

A big thing for me is that Tampermonkey is not open source. And yes, Firefox on Android has an allowlist of "known working good" extensions, the reason given being that Firefox for Android doesn't implement everything the Desktop version implements and IIUC, want to a avoid users blaming the browser when something breaks because of it.

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Re: Firefox Android now supports Tampermonkey

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Greasemonkey was the good one and then something happened with it and it was no longer the best choice. I'm not sure what. The same repeated with Tampermonkey. It now has telemetry built into it, at one time w/ no privacy policy. https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/6hs59w/tampermonke... The good one now is Violentmonkey. Has been for some time. Does Mozilla have an allowlist for these? If so I don't like it.

What exactly is better in ViolentMonkey? Just want to know because I keep working with userscripts and after GreaseMonkey's collapse TamperMonkey has been my default userscript manager.

In term of usability: its JS injector mechanism is much faster than TM last time I checked. Not that it's a big deal for normal users, but I have a few huge global scripts that I can see very visible impact.

And it's more "cleaner" as that you can clearly see each scripts you loaded in devtool and debug them, but and I think TM is catching up in this regard.

Outside that, VM is totally open source, development seems to be much quicker (with the drawback of slightly less stability, I'd admit), devs are more responsive.

Re: Firefox Android now supports Tampermonkey

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Greasemonkey was the good one and then something happened with it and it was no longer the best choice. I'm not sure what. The same repeated with Tampermonkey. It now has telemetry built into it, at one time w/ no privacy policy. https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/6hs59w/tampermonke... The good one now is Violentmonkey. Has been for some time. Does Mozilla have an allowlist for these? If so I don't like it.

For Android, yeah, they have a short list of allowed addons. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/android/search/?promoted=re... You can get past it if you're willing to run Nightly and jump through these hoops: https://blog.mozilla.org/addons/2020/09/29/expanded-extensio...

I've landed on using the F-droid build instead of Nightly. That also allows custom extension collections, and I believe Mozilla's attitude was that they get more telemetry for Nightly as they consider that an opt-in somehow (or at least they did for the desktop app).

Re: Firefox Android now supports Tampermonkey

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A big thing for me is that Tampermonkey is not open source. And yes, Firefox on Android has an allowlist of "known working good" extensions, the reason given being that Firefox for Android doesn't implement everything the Desktop version implements and IIUC, want to a avoid users blaming the browser when something breaks because of it.

Ah yes, an addon whitelist. How very community friendly of Mozilla... And they wonder why their market share plummets the way it does, making such extremely user hostile decisions like that.

Playing devil's advocate here, don't they need to protect their users from nefarious add ons that could steal data?

Re: Firefox Android now supports Tampermonkey

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Ah yes, an addon whitelist. How very community friendly of Mozilla... And they wonder why their market share plummets the way it does, making such extremely user hostile decisions like that.

Playing devil's advocate here, don't they need to protect their users from nefarious add ons that could steal data?

my data is on my computer which has also access to my phone because they are connected

Re: Firefox Android now supports Tampermonkey

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its not bizarre in the least. firefox has allowed this extension on their desktop browser since it existed (same as other browsers) so i don't see how adding mobile support for it could affect their brand in any way.

also i can't imagine there is much of a cross section between people who do illegal stuff and people who use only phones. anyone doing anything seriously is going to be using a desktop os with a physical keyboard

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