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Firefox Android now supports Tampermonkey

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Re: Firefox Android now supports Tampermonkey

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Post by can_center_divs »

saghm wrote: post #21
jraph wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A big thing for me is that Tampermonkey is not open source. And yes, Firefox on Android has an allowlist of "known working good" extensions, the reason given being that Firefox for Android doesn't implement everything the Desktop version implements and IIUC, want to a avoid users blaming the browser when something breaks because of it.

> A big thing for me is that Tampermonkey is not open source. How does that even work? I assumed that Firefox extensions were implemented in frontend web technologies (JavaScript, CSS, etc.)? Do they use WebAssembly or something, or is it just obfuscated to the point that trying to read it isn't worthwhile?

Website's source code is not open source, even though you can inspect it.

If you have a public repository with your code on GitHub, everyone can see the code. But they do not have the right to use the same code in a commercial manner, without you specifying a license for your code, that says they can.

Re: Firefox Android now supports Tampermonkey

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Post by 2Gkashmiri »

pmontra wrote: post #31
saghm wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> A big thing for me is that Tampermonkey is not open source. How does that even work? I assumed that Firefox extensions were implemented in frontend web technologies (JavaScript, CSS, etc.)? Do they use WebAssembly or something, or is it just obfuscated to the point that trying to read it isn't worthwhile?

Check the EULA at https://www.tampermonkey.net/eula.php Excerpt from point 4 > 4. NON-ALLOWABLE USES OF TAMPERMONKEY > You are strictly prohibited from, and agree that you will not, adapt, edit, change, modify, transform, publish, republish, distribute, or redistribute Tampermonkey or any elements, portions, or parts thereof, including without limitation, to any elements, portions, or parts of Tampermonkey software (…

https://github.com/Tampermonkey/tampermonkey/blob/master/COP...

this says GPL so unless they update their license file here, this stays

Re: Firefox Android now supports Tampermonkey

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Post by fisian »

Epskampie wrote: post #29

Awesome but i really really want "I don't care about cookies". Please please let us have it (without having to jump through strange hoops)

You can block many websites cookie banners by using ublock origin and enable some of the Annoyances filter lists in the settings.

I use the "AdGuard annoyances" and "easylist cookie" lists and that blocks many cookie banners.

Also, "I don't care about cookies" was recently bought by a company, which could mean bad things for the extension in the future.

Re: Firefox Android now supports Tampermonkey

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Post by capitainenemo »

piyush_soni wrote: post #28
benatkin wrote: post #5

Greasemonkey was the good one and then something happened with it and it was no longer the best choice. I'm not sure what. The same repeated with Tampermonkey. It now has telemetry built into it, at one time w/ no privacy policy. https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/6hs59w/tampermonke... The good one now is Violentmonkey. Has been for some time. Does Mozilla have an allowlist for these? If so I don't like it.

What exactly is better in ViolentMonkey? Just want to know because I keep working with userscripts and after GreaseMonkey's collapse TamperMonkey has been my default userscript manager.

ViolentMonkey at least seemed to be the only one that worked in my Firefox with NoScript enabled on a site. And since I was occasionally writing script snippets to fix stupid uses of JS to unhide images/html, that was nice.

Re: Firefox Android now supports Tampermonkey

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Post by mat_jack1 »

quantumsequoia wrote: post #27
yunchly wrote: post #23

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What do you expect? Firefox is open source. People in the open source community have long been supportive of seedy abusive software. The people developing Firefox today were probably teenagers using Lunix 20 years ago https://gwern.net/doc/cs/2001-12-02-treginaldgibbons-isyours...

Very useful guide for proper parenting. Thank you!

Re: Firefox Android now supports Tampermonkey

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Post by L3viathan »

2Gkashmiri wrote: post #43
pmontra wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Check the EULA at https://www.tampermonkey.net/eula.php Excerpt from point 4 > 4. NON-ALLOWABLE USES OF TAMPERMONKEY > You are strictly prohibited from, and agree that you will not, adapt, edit, change, modify, transform, publish, republish, distribute, or redistribute Tampermonkey or any elements, portions, or parts thereof, including without limitation, to any elements, portions, or parts of Tampermonkey software (…

https://github.com/Tampermonkey/tampermonkey/blob/master/COP... this says GPL so unless they update their license file here, this stays

> This repository contains the source of the Tampermonkey extension up to version 2.9. All newer versions are distributed under a proprietary license.

You can of course do whatever GPL allows you to the code in the repository (so up to version 2.9).

Re: Firefox Android now supports Tampermonkey

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Post by friend_and_foe »

yunchly wrote: post #23

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> ...lets...

The mindset of my enemy.

This device is my property. And in fact, as a result of the licenses of the software AOSP and Firefox, the software is itself my property as well. You don't get to tell me what to do with my property, period. If you want to forbid me from interacting with you in light of that, that is your right. If I commit a crime, charge me with a crime.

Software that deliberately disempowers it's users is evil.

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