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Firefox Android now supports Tampermonkey

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Re: Firefox Android now supports Tampermonkey

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Post by pmontra »

saghm wrote: post #21
jraph wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A big thing for me is that Tampermonkey is not open source. And yes, Firefox on Android has an allowlist of "known working good" extensions, the reason given being that Firefox for Android doesn't implement everything the Desktop version implements and IIUC, want to a avoid users blaming the browser when something breaks because of it.

> A big thing for me is that Tampermonkey is not open source. How does that even work? I assumed that Firefox extensions were implemented in frontend web technologies (JavaScript, CSS, etc.)? Do they use WebAssembly or something, or is it just obfuscated to the point that trying to read it isn't worthwhile?

Check the EULA at https://www.tampermonkey.net/eula.php

Excerpt from point 4

> 4. NON-ALLOWABLE USES OF TAMPERMONKEY

> You are strictly prohibited from, and agree that you will not, adapt, edit, change, modify, transform, publish, republish, distribute, or redistribute Tampermonkey or any elements, portions, or parts thereof, including without limitation, to any elements, portions, or parts of Tampermonkey software (in any form or media) without the Company’s prior written consent. [...]

Re: Firefox Android now supports Tampermonkey

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Post by justinclift »

benatkin wrote: post #17
sp332 wrote: post #8

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For Android, yeah, they have a short list of allowed addons. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/android/search/?promoted=re... You can get past it if you're willing to run Nightly and jump through these hoops: https://blog.mozilla.org/addons/2020/09/29/expanded-extensio...

Hmm, well they've chosen a known bad one. What gives. :( How is this ever cool, Mozilla? https://github.com/Tampermonkey/tampermonkey/issues/1545#iss...

Reading further down that issue, it doesn't seem to be what it initially sounded like.

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Re: Firefox Android now supports Tampermonkey

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Post by piyush_soni »

mg wrote: post #2

Personally, I prefer bookmarklets over extensions and Tampermonkey. They work the same on Desktop, Android and iOS. So I can write my bookmarklet once and use it everywhere. Without installing anything. I also like that bookmarklets only kick in when you click on them. Although some might find that too much work, it feels natural to me. It is already in my muscle memory, to click an "Increase Fontsize" bookmarklet wh…

The benefit you say that bookmarklets have is in fact also the biggest drawback of bookmarklets as well - that you have to manually click on them - and you can't press that button in a loop like a script can do :). Personally for me userscripts are great - as instead of using tens of extensions I use one userscript manager and write many of these scripts myself - so the trust factor is always there.

Re: Firefox Android now supports Tampermonkey

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Post by pmontra »

Springtime wrote: post #7
coconut08 wrote: post #3

it would be nice if it could support all extensions like kiwi browser does for chromium on android.

From what I've read Firefox for Android Nightly doesn't restrict which addons are allowed to be installed[1] but does require a really byzantine method to get them installed, by first creating a Mozilla account, creating a collection of addons, then using the collection URL to install them. It's unfortunate that both being able to install any addon and access about:config on mobile isn't just some checkbox away or at…

It's so byzantine that I was never able to make it work. I attempted twice, probably making the same mistake both times.

Re: Firefox Android now supports Tampermonkey

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Post by benatkin »

justinclift wrote: post #32
benatkin wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hmm, well they've chosen a known bad one. What gives. :( How is this ever cool, Mozilla? https://github.com/Tampermonkey/tampermonkey/issues/1545#iss...

Reading further down that issue, it doesn't seem to be what it initially sounded like. ?

Still wild to reserve permission to to that

Re: Firefox Android now supports Tampermonkey

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Post by piyush_soni »

pabs3 wrote: post #20
sp332 wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wasn't this a casualty of the XUL addons being removed? The other monkey extensions were ported to the new Web Extension APIs.

Greasemonkey still works in recent Firefox versions.

It does, now, but its developer took a really long time in porting, in that time TamperMonkey was developed and had really gained popularity.

Re: Firefox Android now supports Tampermonkey

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Post by elashri »

quantumsequoia wrote: post #27
yunchly wrote: post #23

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What do you expect? Firefox is open source. People in the open source community have long been supportive of seedy abusive software. The people developing Firefox today were probably teenagers using Lunix 20 years ago https://gwern.net/doc/cs/2001-12-02-treginaldgibbons-isyours...

It was very funny reading the following sentence in the link you provided

> Most American families use trusted and responsible Internet Service Providers, such as AOL

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