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> - Refusing to admit when they've misled people in the past, disinterest in publishing post mortems of their failures. Example: the lack of contrition over the Russiagate conspiracy theory. On this point the media on both sides has so muddied the waters I now assume nothing about this as I can't tell which side is telling the truth anymore. I can't tell fact from fiction as the noise level has completely erased any…
> On this point the media on both sides has so muddied the waters I now assume nothing about this as I can't tell which side is telling the truth anymore. The Columbia Journalism Review is about as reliable on media matters as you could want, and Jeff Gerth is a Pulitzer Prize winning journalist with decades of investigative journalism experience at the NY Times. He lays out an extensive case showing that there was a…
Yes.
So really, the news is that it isn't 100% of Americans.
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Have you heard of the fundamental attribution error? https://online.hbs.edu/blog/post/the-fundamental-attribution... I think it's relevant here. Added to "don't understand" and "dont care" is a third option: "don't agree", based on different upbringings and cultural values, some of which you or I would find abhorrent, because of our own upbringing and cultural values. But I think you should recognize that there is a…
> But I think you should recognize that there is a good chance you'd have the same beliefs if you had the same life experience. What's the point of this line of thinking? Ok, maybe we'd also join the Taliban if we grew up in orphanages in Pakistan after Russia invaded Afghanistan. So? The thrust of your arguments here (the article and the life experience thing) seems to be to not hold anyone morally accountable for a…
Once you recognize that these people are human, you have a chance at maybe effecting some kind of change. Looking at them as animals means you will never effect any positive change, and you'll probably contribute to an even worse us-against-them kind of environment.
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Why do you have vaccines in scare quotes? If a vaccine makes it less likely that you catch a disease, wouldn't that make it less like that you spread the disease? Am I missing something here?
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>I think that most people would read this as "by in large, most are lying". This is still too extreme. "Lying" requires intentionality and implies maliciousness. It suggests that people who work in media are mostly evil people with the primary goal of misleading you. It both ignores and shows ignorance of how the media industry actually works. It also removes any hope of actually fixing the media industry because the…
Disagree. "Lying" is objectively deceit, or intending to deceive. It can be, and often is, malicious, but to ascribe all lying as malicious is a step too far.
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And how many on the blue side are actively policing their own? > And honestly being supporters of a person instead of a policy or a position is itself a psychological failing. You'll get no argument from me on that front, but I think that's a pretty bipartisan failing. Edit: although thinking about it more, it's the person who is going to get your pet agenda items enacted, so practically it probably works better.
> You'll get no argument from me on that front, but I think that's a pretty bipartisan failing. Not really? Has there been any cult of personality like Trump's not only among Dems but also among Republicans, aside from him, in American politics within living memory? (awk phrasing, but I think you get the idea). Maybe Reagan? But even then, it wasn't this level of incredibly personal devotion. Think about it: we never…
But on supporting people, I think Obama definitely had devoted fans. Bernie did as well. I don't think Romney or McCain had the kind of draw to build up a big fan base. A lot of candidates that come along just aren't very exciting to anybody but their corporate handlers.
It's not all that surprising that an Obama or Trump character gets a strong following. Both of them reached out to people who felt like nobody in power cared about them.
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Its certainly an interesting case study (as someone being trained for an executive position), I think about it a lot. You are really fucked as an Executive here. You're social activists employees will undermine and subvert you. Florida will use State power against you. Maybe the Federal government might intervene in your space, but they probably won't care. My conclusion and many executives at my firm is target the s…
This response makes logical sense, but it deepens my hatred of capitalism. Activists who oppose losing their human rights to a proto-fascist governor are silenced by a company because they're getting in the way of profits, the number one priority for any company or individual. Morally terrible. Yes, I suppose I do sound like a "woke moralist".
I think capitalism is whats keeping the tenuous peace right now.
Afterall the market research shows roughly 50% of americans think Desantis is on the right track. If that's the case half the country thinks you are a "fascist" or "villian". Without capitalism, you'd probably be living in an America that would have been far more to the right.
There are literal mountains of sociological studies on how (state and corporate) media have been in service of the powers that be, for decades, and how exactly this works. With a mountain of examples. So, for sociologists, this feels like "wow, it only took half a century to trickle through." Though of course this is the wrong reaction; it has always trickled through. Only that, in the past, it took a few years or de…
This is such a black and white spin. First: I don't know which sociological studies you refer to, but most of it is politically colored arm chair philosophy. These insights didn't come from sociology, but from political movements. Second: there's a difference not providing a full picture of a war or a new economic policy, and outright lying. I expect news organizations to provide me with the basic info: incomplete, b…