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Re: Where do stolen bikes go?

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True but it requires heavy tooling and more time. Most robbers want cheap shots.

this is patently not true. maybe titanium is gummy enough to give one trouble? but any steel that isn't brittle enough to shatter when you look at it is going to be trivial to cut with an abrasive disk and a battery powered grinder. if the chain is 1/2" instead of 1/4", it will take an extra minute maybe.

yup. even boron steel cuts pretty quickly

Re: Where do stolen bikes go?

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>> Cops really don't give a shit about theft unless it's from a business. Have had my place of home and work both burglarized. The difference is that at work they show up, take tons of notes, interview you and your employees, and then ignore you. I vastly prefer the home burglary experience. At least they're honest about not caring. Both times I had 1080p footage with clear vision of the thieves and cars. Jack shit d…

It’s worrying though. It’s part of the social contract, and I worry about vigilantism rising if cops not doing anything about the majority of crime that affects most normal people is ignored, and that gets worse.

Completely agree with you. It's ruining statistical analysis of actual crime and it's developing serious apathy and nihilism in our population.

Re: Where do stolen bikes go?

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I don’t understand this. Are they assuming everyone reporting a theft stole the bike they’re reporting in the first place? Even if that was the case, who in their right mind would admit it on a police report?

It is a joke...

Are the police good-humored? Or is it not on the form, but a quip to poke fun at law enforcement, or at common bike "borrowing" in the city?

Re: Where do stolen bikes go?

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This is why cell phones just disable themselves when stolen even though infinitely traceable they have GPS and cell service after all). Nobody cares.

Probably illegal, but a GPS tracking and remote braking could be a “fun” (actually really dangerous) combo for a stolen bike. Of course it is just as likely that some unfortunate person would have unknowingly bought your stolen bike, so that’d be bad.

Another fun way is to gradually lock up the front wheel of the bike so it gets harder and harder to balance on it. If gradually enough this may be enough to convince thief it's just broken or bad.

Re: Where do stolen bikes go?

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post #147

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>> Cops really don't give a shit about theft unless it's from a business. Have had my place of home and work both burglarized. The difference is that at work they show up, take tons of notes, interview you and your employees, and then ignore you. I vastly prefer the home burglary experience. At least they're honest about not caring. Both times I had 1080p footage with clear vision of the thieves and cars. Jack shit d…

It’s worrying though. It’s part of the social contract, and I worry about vigilantism rising if cops not doing anything about the majority of crime that affects most normal people is ignored, and that gets worse.

It already is rising, with all the false positives and prejudice induced mistakes you would expect. A Kenyan I know said vigilantism there relies on setting up bait for thieves and having multiple members of the community lie in wait. The thief that takes the bait is caught red handed, beaten severely, and often doused in petrol and burned alive. I said I was sure that probably kept theft pretty low, and he replied it did not, no one ever thinks they will be caught.

Re: Where do stolen bikes go?

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> Cops really don’t give a shit about theft unless it’s from a business. My only experience with police and bike theft is the opposite; they police were helpful and recovered my bike. When I first called them they even suggested that I make initial contact with the thief and they’d be there to support the sting, which surprised me a lot! I found the bike a couple of weeks after it was stolen when the thief posted it…

This is almost certainly a UK specific experience. The police here have a track record of treating people who report crimes with disdain.

More universal than you might suspect. Cops treating the 'citizens' with disdain is a pretty common feature of cops, at least in my experience.

Re: Where do stolen bikes go?

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They used something called a smarttag, not sure what that is. But I wonder if one could put an RFID tag inside the frame some where ? And I wonder if you have a steel frame would that interfere with it ?

RFID probably doesn't bring much, engraving is easier and is hard to remove without marks. About that, France has an official method of tagging bikes which has been mandatory on new bikes since jan 2021. See [0] for doc in English and [1] for a video. [0]: https://www.bicycode.org/pages-1/Documents_PDF/plaquette__Bi... [1]: https://www.bicycode.org/faire-marquer-son-velo.rub-2/le-mar...

Sounds like a gross expansion of government tracking power to make it mandatory. This is equivalent to license plates on cars, which is already used to track people around in many countries.

Re: Where do stolen bikes go?

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post #89

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> Cops really don’t give a shit about theft unless it’s from a business. My only experience with police and bike theft is the opposite; they police were helpful and recovered my bike. When I first called them they even suggested that I make initial contact with the thief and they’d be there to support the sting, which surprised me a lot! I found the bike a couple of weeks after it was stolen when the thief posted it…

I'm also in the western, US (the PNW) and my bike was stolen a couple of years back. It had a sticker and a registration number from my apartment building, which they called and left their phone number saying they found the bike abandoned and want to return it. I called the number, and they told me to meet up somewhere in a relatively rough neighborhood. I told them I would love to meet up in front of a police precin…

If this is Seattle, I have heard dozens of people tell me about their stolen bikes. And every single one has said the cops basically laughed at them and told them to forget about it.

Re-read your post and it is seattle, I knew it!

Re: Where do stolen bikes go?

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I had a £2,000 electric bike stolen in Oxford. No worries - it had a GPS tracker, and I could see it heading to Birmingham up the M40. Also, my neighbour had CCTV footage. You couldn't make out the faces or number-plate, but you could see it was a black Mercedes. It was taken at about 3AM. So they had "liberated" the bike (it was locked up), and immediately headed out of town. I'm sure it was scouted, then they came…

A friend of mine had his bike stolen in Oxford. Someone came and took all the bikes at my house one night (except mine, because mine was awful and worthless). My friend later spotted the bike being ridden by a homeless man in the city. He was riding his other bike and made chase. The thief tried to outrun him, but my friend was on his racing bike. When he started to ring the police and describe his location, the thie…

Homeless man overreacted. The police would not dispatch an officer to pursue.

Re: Where do stolen bikes go?

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post #62

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This is why cell phones just disable themselves when stolen even though infinitely traceable they have GPS and cell service after all). Nobody cares.

Probably illegal, but a GPS tracking and remote braking could be a “fun” (actually really dangerous) combo for a stolen bike. Of course it is just as likely that some unfortunate person would have unknowingly bought your stolen bike, so that’d be bad.

See YouTube for electric shock bait bike
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