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Re: Where do stolen bikes go?

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The first line on the Amsterdam stolen bike report form at the local police station reads: "Waar heeft u het rijwiel zelf gestolen?" Which translates as: "Where did you steal the bike yourself?" So at least in Amsterdam this fact was common knowledge ;)

I don’t understand this. Are they assuming everyone reporting a theft stole the bike they’re reporting in the first place? Even if that was the case, who in their right mind would admit it on a police report?

It is a joke...

Re: Where do stolen bikes go?

#122

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I had this with a stolen iphone in Houston, Texas. I called the local police and they said they couldn't help, I told the operator that's okay, I have a gun and I'll go retrieve it myself. An officer was standing in front of me 10 minutes later. We got the phone back.

And that didn't get you in any trouble?

Why should it? You can conceal carry (or open carry, for that matter) in Texas, and you'd be a lunatic to follow a criminal anywhere to get your property back. Heck I conceal carried when I got my last used car, because there's no way I'm bringing ten grand to get a car from a guy I met on craigslist with no backup

Re: Where do stolen bikes go?

#123
post #12

There was a security researcher in NYC that wrote about recovering his stolen scooter with an Airtag that discussed part of this question. At least some of the shops know they've got stolen merch and actively look for Airtags or other trackers. Found it: https://www.cnet.com/culture/guy-successfully-hunts-down-his...

I have an airtag on mine but I’m not super convinced it will make a difference: - whenever I pick up the bike to ride it after a long period of not using it (say overnight or after a day of work), the airtag starts ringing. I don’t know why it does that but it would for sure tip the thief off - don’t iPhones and maybe androids now show some kind of notification and offer to disable the tag if a tag you don’t own star…

I bet those AirTag dealies don't include any mechanism that disables themselves if the speaker is physically defeated

Re: Where do stolen bikes go?

#125
post #53

I caught a guy stealing a neighbor's bike and told him "Why don't we do this instead, I give you mine, and you never return because if you do I'll fry your eyeballs with an industrial laser", he took it, and I got an excuse to buy a new bike. (Not actually an industrial laser)

I can't imagine the situation you described. Was he just standing there having a conversation with you?

yes because he was in my neighbor's back yard and there was only one way out unless he could jump a 5' fence. not sure where my neighbor was at the time. she's a french teacher so this guy got off lucky that i got to him first, lol

Re: Where do stolen bikes go?

#126
post #13

This is not really surprising to locals. The joke was always that if your bike is stolen when you get back, you'd just steal another one and keep the circulation going. During the 90s the stories were about heroin junkies selling bikes for 25 NLG (11.34 EUR). Clearly not the type of people with the organizational skills to set up an international crime syndicate. These were stories, and it's good/interesting to check…

When the article stated “We thought bikes might be stolen and sent abroad." I nearly spat out my coffee. It really is amusing to watch MIT laboratory types spend a bunch of time and effort to rediscover what was plainly known beforehand.

Eh, in Amsterdam you'll get plenty of people mentioning that there's people in vans who go and steal a bunch of bikes at night (scoping them and sometimes locking them with their own lock during the day), and driving them off to somewhere in Eastern Europe. I'm not sure particularly of the truth of this, beyond this article suggesting it's probably not the case, but it's definitely something in the popular consciousness there.

Re: Where do stolen bikes go?

#127

There's a Dutch bike company (VanMoof) that offers a Theft Recovery service for their bikes: they have teams of people that track down the bike (using GPS primarily) and basically steal it back. They used to produce monthly videos of bike recovery operations, though it looks like they've stopped the videos so you'll have to scroll past a few years of promo videos: https://www.youtube.com/@vanmoof Often they recover t…

The videos are interesting. Will VanMoof go anywhere in Europe for you then to recover these then? I see Strasbourg and Stockholm in addition to the Netherlands. Any insight into how the pricing works for recovery?

Re: Where do stolen bikes go?

#128

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> They weren't interested - they told me to contact West Midlands police. So I rang them. No, they were not going to investigate: "Don't you realize how many Porsches are stolen in this city every day?" Also, they said they can't just walk in and have a look around (I guess they need a warrant, which is fair enough; but then why not get a warrant?) I've seen/heard this numerous times. Cops really don't give a shit ab…

This is scandalous. I wonder if you could somehow sue the police for not doing their job, or report the guy who refused to investigate.

At least in the US, you can't:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_v._District_of_Columbia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Town_of_Castle_Rock_v._Gonzale...

Not sure about other jurisdictions.

Re: Where do stolen bikes go?

#129
post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> They weren't interested - they told me to contact West Midlands police. So I rang them. No, they were not going to investigate: "Don't you realize how many Porsches are stolen in this city every day?" Also, they said they can't just walk in and have a look around (I guess they need a warrant, which is fair enough; but then why not get a warrant?) I've seen/heard this numerous times. Cops really don't give a shit ab…

> Cops really don’t give a shit about theft unless it’s from a business. My only experience with police and bike theft is the opposite; they police were helpful and recovered my bike. When I first called them they even suggested that I make initial contact with the thief and they’d be there to support the sting, which surprised me a lot! I found the bike a couple of weeks after it was stolen when the thief posted it…

This is almost certainly a UK specific experience. The police here have a track record of treating people who report crimes with disdain.

Re: Where do stolen bikes go?

#130
post #12

There was a security researcher in NYC that wrote about recovering his stolen scooter with an Airtag that discussed part of this question. At least some of the shops know they've got stolen merch and actively look for Airtags or other trackers. Found it: https://www.cnet.com/culture/guy-successfully-hunts-down-his...

I have an airtag on mine but I’m not super convinced it will make a difference: - whenever I pick up the bike to ride it after a long period of not using it (say overnight or after a day of work), the airtag starts ringing. I don’t know why it does that but it would for sure tip the thief off - don’t iPhones and maybe androids now show some kind of notification and offer to disable the tag if a tag you don’t own star…

Air tags ring so abusers can't use them to track a person secretly. The speaker can be disabled though.
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