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The reason content creators worry about ChatGPT

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Re: The reason content creators worry about ChatGPT

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Post by valzam »

ClumsyPilot wrote: post #5
breckenedge wrote: post #2

> The problem isn't that bots will replace humans. The problem is that humans are acting like bots. Yikes that really hits home. Since the dawn of computers, people have been handing over more and more of their thinking to processes and machines, becoming more robotic. Or like how the factory line changes the way people think, reduces their creativity. Maybe now that the robots are getting scarily good, I can hope th…

My first experience of this was when I got into an argument with a cashier. I remember it was something absurd and kafkesque, I returned a product, and they could only return the money on the card I used to pay for it, but that card has expired. I was exasperated "Here is my ID, its the same bank account, by the same bank. Use y common sence!" "But there is message sating it has to be the same card" "it no longer exi…

I know this is besides the point but you can normally get refunds on expired cards. The card isn't valid for payments anymore but Visa/MC definitely keeps a record of it around. If it's with the same bank it shouldn't be an issue at all.

Re: The reason content creators worry about ChatGPT

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Post by haswell »

zamadatix wrote: post #9
throwaway675309 wrote: post #7

I think one of my biggest fears is when I see people excitedly exclaiming, "these kinds of tools allow people to create things that they never would've been capable of building". And then you see people on Reddit talking about how they created a picture book using stable diffusion for the pictures, and chat GPT for the story with the Reddit post titled "I wrote a book". It's almost as if people fundamentally misunder…

The same thing could be said about using digital tools to edit the text/images or more extremely purchased art supplies instead of making your own. For the things you mentioned the low quality craftsmanship has no relationship to using the newer tools to make them.

I don’t think the same thing can be said. Yes, tools have evolved over time and at each step, the discipline has evolved with it.

But current AI tools do not seem analogous to the progression of tools that came before, and I don’t think we should treat them as such.

Re: The reason content creators worry about ChatGPT

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Post by jxramos »

ClumsyPilot wrote: post #5
breckenedge wrote: post #2

> The problem isn't that bots will replace humans. The problem is that humans are acting like bots. Yikes that really hits home. Since the dawn of computers, people have been handing over more and more of their thinking to processes and machines, becoming more robotic. Or like how the factory line changes the way people think, reduces their creativity. Maybe now that the robots are getting scarily good, I can hope th…

My first experience of this was when I got into an argument with a cashier. I remember it was something absurd and kafkesque, I returned a product, and they could only return the money on the card I used to pay for it, but that card has expired. I was exasperated "Here is my ID, its the same bank account, by the same bank. Use y common sence!" "But there is message sating it has to be the same card" "it no longer exi…

smart systems will permit reimbursement via plain cash or gift card. I had this experience once at a grocery store that sold some stale food at the deli. I returned with the wrong receipt from the same day and the customer service folk just issued a gift card.

I think more accurately the developer constrained the end user of the system.

Re: The reason content creators worry about ChatGPT

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Post by imiric »

I'm not worried about AI replacing content creators. If anything, it will make the low effort bot generated content all platforms have been filled with for years now at least somewhat more interesting.

What I'll be annoyed by is the amount of it that will exist, which will make finding high quality content made by humans much more difficult. Audio and video content will become spam infested as text has been on the web for decades now. We'll be flooded by SEO'd to hell garbage, propaganda and deep fakes, and curation will be crucial to find the signal within the noise. I guess we'll come up with new AIs and new platforms to help us with that as well.

I can hardly wait. /s

Re: The reason content creators worry about ChatGPT

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Post by si1entstill »

vouaobrasil wrote: post #10

I really do think this article is missing the point entirely. Well, I think it's partially right in that there is an over-reliance on process and humans acting more like bots. However, in regards to content creation, there are far more serious problems: (a) ChatGPT is not just ChatGPT, it's an initial stage on a massive operation that will generate content on all levels and in much more advanced ways (b) Content crea…

> the reason why content creators get paid is because people buy shit they don't need, and AI will amplify this much more easily than humans

Eh, I think this may be undervaluing the human part of content creation. People spend thousands of dollars for single seats at concerts because they've decided (or been told by taste-makers) that "this is what is good." I don't see that paradigm of consumption changing. I think it will vary by medium but some artistic mediums seem to really maintain a strong "creator connection." That is, a lot of the appreciation of the art seems to stem from some form of adoration for its creator. Sure, sure, "death of the artist" and all, but as you said, we need take into account the current form, not the "content creators inside a bubble."

Re: The reason content creators worry about ChatGPT

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Post by dorkwood »

zamadatix wrote: post #9
throwaway675309 wrote: post #7

I think one of my biggest fears is when I see people excitedly exclaiming, "these kinds of tools allow people to create things that they never would've been capable of building". And then you see people on Reddit talking about how they created a picture book using stable diffusion for the pictures, and chat GPT for the story with the Reddit post titled "I wrote a book". It's almost as if people fundamentally misunder…

The same thing could be said about using digital tools to edit the text/images or more extremely purchased art supplies instead of making your own. For the things you mentioned the low quality craftsmanship has no relationship to using the newer tools to make them.

You don’t see a difference between using a paintbrush to paint a painting, and pasting “landscape painting ultra-detailed 4K artstation” into midjourney and getting an immediate result?

I think it’s more like buying a paintbrush that also paints the painting for you. And I’d also have the same opinion about that.

Re: The reason content creators worry about ChatGPT

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Post by zmgsabst »

zamadatix wrote: post #9
throwaway675309 wrote: post #7

I think one of my biggest fears is when I see people excitedly exclaiming, "these kinds of tools allow people to create things that they never would've been capable of building". And then you see people on Reddit talking about how they created a picture book using stable diffusion for the pictures, and chat GPT for the story with the Reddit post titled "I wrote a book". It's almost as if people fundamentally misunder…

The same thing could be said about using digital tools to edit the text/images or more extremely purchased art supplies instead of making your own. For the things you mentioned the low quality craftsmanship has no relationship to using the newer tools to make them.

Not really:

I find a distinction between paying to CNC your own design and purchasing a product designed and CNC’d by someone else.

In both cases you have a finished product, but in the second case you didn’t make it — you bought it.

Re: The reason content creators worry about ChatGPT

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Post by dorkwood »

throwaway675309 wrote: post #7

I think one of my biggest fears is when I see people excitedly exclaiming, "these kinds of tools allow people to create things that they never would've been capable of building". And then you see people on Reddit talking about how they created a picture book using stable diffusion for the pictures, and chat GPT for the story with the Reddit post titled "I wrote a book". It's almost as if people fundamentally misunder…

People want desperately to experience the act of creation. Previously, you needed to put time into learning a craft in order to feel that feeling. Now, you can sidestep that, and go straight to the pleasure chemical release. It’s a new kind of digital drug.

Re: The reason content creators worry about ChatGPT

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Post by jmyeet »

People seem to have short memories. We've been here before.

Not with AI but with low-cost content farms eg Demand Media, Associated Content, Mahalo. Most of these died. A few survive (eg Wikihow). People recognize it for what it is: noise. Ultimately, search enginees do as well and this SEO-optimized drivel gets downranked into non-existence.

ChatGPT can write as many articles as you like but they have to have a point, over overarching narrative. A lot of people at content farms will get replaced by AI but that's just automation. AI tools like this will magnify the abilities of a person to be able to produce more content just like any other form of automation.

As for content creators, 95%+ of these already earn little to nothing from their activities. They're hoping to get their big break. AI won't really change that making a living as a content creator has always been a low-probability endeavour.

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