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America blowing up the pipeline doesn't pass the sniff test?
Not for me. I would not expect something as bold from admin that let last week ballon hysteria happen
Blowing holes in Seymour Hersh’s pipe dream
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#92> "and his recent factually incorrect takes on the Syria gas attacks and Skripal poisoning" I don't know of anything incorrect in Hersh's take on (one of) the Syria gas attacks: https://www.lrb.co.uk/the-paper/v35/n24/seymour-m.-hersh/who... and I haven't read what he wrote on the Skripal affair.
The CIA narrative on the "Syria gas attacks" have been roundly debunked by the meticulous reporting of Aaron Mate (and others). The even more absurd "Skripal poisoning" incident has completely fallen apart upon only the barest scrutiny. It is sad and disturbing these these completely debunked narratives are still being touted by people as credible. Anyone (rightfully) calling for skepticism and scrutiny into Hersch's account of the pipeline bombing should, at the very least, have the same skepticism towards CIA/US government claims that are even flimsier.
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#94The head scratcher is why you would use any surface ships at all for such a clandestine operation.
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Why?
Because Bellingcat is little more than a CIA information laundering mill that is staffed almost entirely by former intelligence officers and is funded by the US and British governments (among others).
https://twitter.com/EliotHiggins/status/828554441485869056
Edit: For those who doubt Bellingcat is little more than a CIA mouthpiece, it is something they brag about.
>But, perhaps more importantly, it has also enabled U.S. officials and lawmakers to discuss Moscow’s skullduggery openly without revealing the sources and methods of the U.S. intelligence agencies.
https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/12/17/bellingcat-can-say-what...
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#96One interesting thing about the Jens Stoltenberg. It’s Thorvald Stoltenberg, his father who was defense minister and foreign minister after 1979 as well as was a high level official in the Norwegian state and defense department during the last years of the Vietnam conflict.
Confusion but basically father and son.
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#97I spent a few days with the chief of special operations of the joint chiefs of staff, and he told me many stories of things they would do to cover their tracks in special ops. For example, they would dismantle an airplane and file off every serial number of every part and then put it back together again. Anyone planning an operation of this scale and significance would have thought to ensure the ship had an alibi. Mo…
According to the same analysis: it doesn't even make sense that they'd require an Alta-class ship from Norway's Navy in the first place; the ship was essentially just a diving platform, and civilian ships operate in those waters with far less need for cover. Moreover, the whole structure of the operation Hersh claims: EC-UBA divers planting C4 charges detonated by a sonobuoy dropped by a Norwegian P8, doesn't make se…
When you qualify Hersh as one of journalism's least trustworthy figures, it's impossible to take the rest of your comment at face value.
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#98A Norwegian minesweeper was active over the area and returned to the area as well. Norway does have minefields specialized in this field.
If I was going to do this I would drop off the teams in three zodiacs and then pick them up on the return this way my ship was never stationary.
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#99> I doubt Jens Stoltenberg was a US intelligence asset in his early teens. Actually, it seems Stoltenberg was politically active during the late years of the Vietnam war, as a teenager: https://www.patreon.com/posts/unlocked-young-78471711 that doesn't mean he necessarily "worked directly with US intelligence", but - he might have. He did go on to become a staunch NATO-supporter after all. > mine clearing has long be…
Confusion with his father Thorvald Stoltenberg
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#100Earlier quoted context omitted.
According to the same analysis: it doesn't even make sense that they'd require an Alta-class ship from Norway's Navy in the first place; the ship was essentially just a diving platform, and civilian ships operate in those waters with far less need for cover. Moreover, the whole structure of the operation Hersh claims: EC-UBA divers planting C4 charges detonated by a sonobuoy dropped by a Norwegian P8, doesn't make se…
When you qualify Hersh as one of journalism's least trustworthy figures, it's impossible to take the rest of your comment at face value.
I think you have to separate Hersh pre-2010 and Hersh after-2010. He was once one of the greatest journalists in the world, but the last decade he has been putting out poorly-sourced, falsifiable garbage.
Watch the interview he gave the other day (mentioned in this article) and tell me you walk away from it with more confidence that he's fully "there" as a journalist. He goes on a tangent about how Ukraine is doomed and Zelenskiy is killing his own people by resisting, even though 90% of the country is in favor of fighting to regain the occupied territory.
He also doubles down on the ship being, specifically, the ALTA (and not any other ship), but the ALTA has been sitting in a scrap yard for 6 months.