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YouTube CEO Susan Wojcicki is stepping down

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Re: YouTube CEO Susan Wojcicki is stepping down

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Post by capableweb »

paulpauper wrote: post #137
beebmam wrote: post #128

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The dislike button was never removed, that is not accurate. The dislike count is no longer being displayed to viewers. Dislikes still exist. In my opinion, it is important to be accurate with language.

Isn't this a distinction without a difference? The point of having likes/dislikes is it's supposed to be a social signal for quality of the content? I have found dislikes useful for knowing which videos to skip if I am crunched for time and do not want to watch all of them, like music.

Author/owner of the video would still be able to see it, so they can judge if their audience liked the video or not. But still, the biggest value proposition of having the likes vs dislikes is for viewers, not content producers, so it really sucked it went away.

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Post by game_the0ry »

I was big time addicted to youtube for a while starting around 2010, mostly bc the recommended videos were so good and content that was uploaded was more raw and silly then now. But at some point the recommendations got really bad, so much so that it made it a lot less enjoyable. I miss those days.

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Post by intrasight »

neosat wrote: post #94

YouTube has been riding it's content momentum for too long. It really needs a change of leadership to continue to innovate. For some searches, it's baffling that the top results are clearly intuitively wrong (e.g. showing videos where dislike to like ratio is very high, compared to clearly better alternatives that you can find if you wade through the results)

For me, as a consumer of video content that I find with google video search, YouTube is just a video host and no different than any other video host that Google crawl. The vast majority of those searches for me pertain to hands-on DIY projects where videos are very useful to learn how to perform some process - like laying floors (a recent one for me). I would never visit youtube.com directly as I've learned that it's incentives are very different. But most of the really useful content that I find is in fact hosted on YouTube, so the service is in fact extremely useful for DIYers. And I do often find in those videos tools or supplies that make sense to purchase, and I often click on the producers affiliate links in the video.

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Post by labrador »

aeyes wrote: post #164
labrador wrote: post #147

YouTube for the things I enjoy has improved dramatically because the comment section is vastly improved. Everyone used to use YouTube comments as an example of a comment section dumpster fire, but they fixed it. I've seen the recommendations get better then worse then better again as they tweaked the algorithms. Right now it's better than it's ever been. Again, for me. One complaint: I like to upload interesting clip…

Nowadays the comment section on several channels I watch is full of spam, oftentimes 50+ fake accounts responding to each other in threads.

I don't see that on the videos I watch. For example, this section from a song I recently listened to. Very nice comments.

The Beatles - Within You Without You https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsffxGyY4ck

Do you see a bunch of spam comments? Maybe my ad blocker is blocking them?

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Post by mdgrech23 »

progbits wrote: post #177
neosat wrote: post #94

YouTube has been riding it's content momentum for too long. It really needs a change of leadership to continue to innovate. For some searches, it's baffling that the top results are clearly intuitively wrong (e.g. showing videos where dislike to like ratio is very high, compared to clearly better alternatives that you can find if you wade through the results)

Why does everything have to keep innovating? Youtube was fine years ago. People make stuff, I subscribe and watch it. Sure throw in some algorithmic discovery on the side. Bring back dislike count. Other than that I don't care for any innovation. Just keep the lights on.

yea I'm a daily users of YT. Pay for premium. Don't produce. Only consume. Probably their ideal customer and I think the app is great. No idea what people are bitching about.

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Post by progbits »

Dylan16807 wrote: post #176
joenathanone wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's just made-up or out of date data, the feature has been removed, not just hidden.

It's not just made up, it tracks downvotes from extension users and combines them with a historical database. And I think some creators share new info with the database to help the accuracy.

Creators can only share own counts and would be heavily incentivized to lower their dislike count, no? How is this supposed to work?

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Post by clircle »

progbits wrote: post #177
neosat wrote: post #94

YouTube has been riding it's content momentum for too long. It really needs a change of leadership to continue to innovate. For some searches, it's baffling that the top results are clearly intuitively wrong (e.g. showing videos where dislike to like ratio is very high, compared to clearly better alternatives that you can find if you wade through the results)

Why does everything have to keep innovating? Youtube was fine years ago. People make stuff, I subscribe and watch it. Sure throw in some algorithmic discovery on the side. Bring back dislike count. Other than that I don't care for any innovation. Just keep the lights on.

Because those stock prices gotta go up

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Post by szopa »

jossclimb wrote: post #103
mkaic wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agreed. I am a massive fan of YouTube Premium and YouTube Music. While I am a bit nervous because major change like this could lead to those products getting worse, I'm also hopeful that it could lead to them getting better! So in general I'm just eager to see what happens next, come what may.

can you sell it to a current spotify user?

YouTube's music library feels richer than Spotify. A few years ago I was contemplating a switch from YT Music to Spotify (I like Spotify's UX), but a lot of stuff I enjoy listening to was missing. But I might just have a weird taste in music.

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Post by gardenhedge »

8f2ab37a-ed6c wrote: post #140
joegahona wrote: post #56

I'm nervous about this. YouTube Premium is my favorite and most-used product. As long as ads stay gone and my grandfathered price doesn't change, I'm a very happy user.

Same, huge youtube premium fanboy. YouTube has pretty much replaced Netflix and all the other streaming platforms for me, the content it has is more varied and interesting than yet another generic new IP play. Although it doesn't have classic time-tested movies, so that still requires a subscription somewhere.

It also doesn't have TV shows like Game of Thrones, House, The Wire, Breaking Bad, etc etc

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Post by Steltek »

mkaic wrote: post #69
joegahona wrote: post #56

I'm nervous about this. YouTube Premium is my favorite and most-used product. As long as ads stay gone and my grandfathered price doesn't change, I'm a very happy user.

Agreed. I am a massive fan of YouTube Premium and YouTube Music. While I am a bit nervous because major change like this could lead to those products getting worse, I'm also hopeful that it could lead to them getting better! So in general I'm just eager to see what happens next, come what may.

YT Premium, definitely yes. However, YT Music is hot garbage. The UI is utter crap and the mixing of video and music is awful, especially playlists. Why the hell would I want my regular YT and music playlists mixed up together anyway? It gets worse with kids, as some video-songs (randomly!) trigger the inability to play in the background.
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