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YouTube CEO Susan Wojcicki is stepping down

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Re: YouTube CEO Susan Wojcicki is stepping down

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Post by khazhoux »

rolobio wrote: post #74
kerpotgh wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Completely disagree. Getting rid of that button has significantly cleaned up the associated comments sections. I’ve also noticed a general improvement in my recommendations. Great move imo.

How can you tell when a video contains something misleading? For example, I struggle to find quality DIY videos without the dislikes warning me away. Dislikes are a great way for the community to clean house.

But YouTube is already using the dislikes to push content down, it's just not showing you the count (nor does it show you the many-other engagement signals it uses for its rankings and recommendations).

Personally, I see the removal of visible dislikes as a net positive. They were used to rain down negativity and meanness on well-intentioned videos. I think YouTube is now a happier place when a kid's crappy singing video gets quietly ranked down, versus being shown to have 34 classmates (or 34,000 strangers) that hated it.

Re: YouTube CEO Susan Wojcicki is stepping down

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Post by khazhoux »

robmusial wrote: post #110
rolobio wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How can you tell when a video contains something misleading? For example, I struggle to find quality DIY videos without the dislikes warning me away. Dislikes are a great way for the community to clean house.

DIY videos are my primary concern on this as well. It is also why browser extensions don't help me too much because my use case is usually in the garage, half way through a project having issues, on my phone furiously trying to get a solution to the problem I'm having. I had this exact scenario yesterday trying to remove rounded/stripped lug nuts off my wheels. It would've been very helpful to be able to see if the v…

Isn't YouTube already pushing down the bad-ratio videos, though? I know it's not the same as you being able to filter the counts yourself... but the data is being used to try to hide crap.

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Post by orangejuice101 »

joegahona wrote: post #56

I'm nervous about this. YouTube Premium is my favorite and most-used product. As long as ads stay gone and my grandfathered price doesn't change, I'm a very happy user.

If you are on the family plan, they announced in October the price will increase for the US to $22.99 starting in April

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Post by moffkalast »

mark_l_watson wrote: post #109
joegahona wrote: post #56

I'm nervous about this. YouTube Premium is my favorite and most-used product. As long as ads stay gone and my grandfathered price doesn't change, I'm a very happy user.

I agree, my wife and I use the YouTube Premium family plan - I don't want them to mess with it. I think it is the best deal of any monthly subscription with the possible exception of Apple+ family plan (I use Fitness+, Arcade, iCloud storage - so it is also a pretty good deal).

This is Google we're talking about, they'll randomly decide to retire Youtube completely out of the blue one day.

Re: YouTube CEO Susan Wojcicki is stepping down

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Post by strgrd »

rolobio wrote: post #74
kerpotgh wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Completely disagree. Getting rid of that button has significantly cleaned up the associated comments sections. I’ve also noticed a general improvement in my recommendations. Great move imo.

How can you tell when a video contains something misleading? For example, I struggle to find quality DIY videos without the dislikes warning me away. Dislikes are a great way for the community to clean house.

same experience trying to find videos that answer a technical question - there's no immediate gauge on whether or not the video's useful, and it's easy (and often automatic on YouTube's part) to hide any comments with a negative sentiment

Re: YouTube CEO Susan Wojcicki is stepping down

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Post by joegahona »

8f2ab37a-ed6c wrote: post #140
joegahona wrote: post #56

I'm nervous about this. YouTube Premium is my favorite and most-used product. As long as ads stay gone and my grandfathered price doesn't change, I'm a very happy user.

Same, huge youtube premium fanboy. YouTube has pretty much replaced Netflix and all the other streaming platforms for me, the content it has is more varied and interesting than yet another generic new IP play. Although it doesn't have classic time-tested movies, so that still requires a subscription somewhere.

Agreed re: movies, though some have been cropping up there recently, and in really good resolution too. I watched "Glengary Glen Ross" for the first time in my life last weekend on Youtube.

Re: YouTube CEO Susan Wojcicki is stepping down

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Post by labrador »

YouTube for the things I enjoy has improved dramatically because the comment section is vastly improved. Everyone used to use YouTube comments as an example of a comment section dumpster fire, but they fixed it.

I've seen the recommendations get better then worse then better again as they tweaked the algorithms. Right now it's better than it's ever been. Again, for me.

One complaint: I like to upload interesting clips from this or that. I got my first copy right strike on a clip of Russel Brand talking to Terry Gross of NPR about life on heroin because I thought it was helpful for people. YouTube told me I could only get 3 strikes before they disabled my account, which I assume they mean they will disable my GMail. I can't have that so I don't upload interesting clips anymore. In fact, I don't upload anything since I don't want to lose my GMail. So the complaint is why didn't YouTube tell me when I uploaded it that I couldn't? I'd be ok with that.

So I give Ms Wojcicki a people choice grade of B+ overall

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Post by toddmorey »

robmusial wrote: post #28

Hopefully this brings back the dislike button. Intellectually I know a change of CEO shouldn't/wouldn't impact a feature like this, but I am still annoyed at its absence and find it makes YouTube substantially less useful. Edit: I understand the dislike button is still there, I misspoke. But for my purposes of seeing like/dislike ratio, it might as well not be there.

My hope is that coming AI can be used to help better discern and classify content. Essentially, "prewatch" videos and help filter spam. I would love to see incentives for creators reset towards making quality content rather than sensationalized content. So, so fatigued on the stupid thumbnails with surprised faces and shocking claims and they are everywhere from home repair guides to physics tutorials.

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Post by wankle »

the_af wrote: post #34
5350-uiop-1130 wrote: post #26

- increasingly ignores your search keywords, instead shoving unrelated stuff at you - removed ability to sort videos by date - removed dislikes what else.....youtube UX has being getting worse for a few years.

I've no use for the dislike button in YouTube ("never show me this channel again" is more useful) but its search/sort functions are getting increasingly broken.

Just like the shorts panel, they will show them again. It's inevitable.

Re: YouTube CEO Susan Wojcicki is stepping down

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Post by moffkalast »

neosat wrote: post #94

YouTube has been riding it's content momentum for too long. It really needs a change of leadership to continue to innovate. For some searches, it's baffling that the top results are clearly intuitively wrong (e.g. showing videos where dislike to like ratio is very high, compared to clearly better alternatives that you can find if you wade through the results)

> to continue to innovate

Like they innovated by blatantly ripping off tiktok and added "shorts"? Yeah best if they just stay exactly what they are.

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