Half of Americans now believe that news organizations deliberately mislead them

Post by yaksha » Thu, Feb 16, 2023, 5:26 PM UTC

recuter wrote: post #113

bigger_inside wrote: post #47

There are literal mountains of sociological studies on how (state and corporate) media have been in service of the powers that be, for decades, and how exactly this works. With a mountain of examples. So, for sociologists, this feels like "wow, it only took half a century to trickle through." Though of course this is the wrong reaction; it has always trickled through. Only that, in the past, it took a few years or de…

> But many of the structural pressures that sociologists have long identified shape commercial and state sourced news stories just don't apply to independent journalists If Matt Taibi get Keshloggied it would not amaze me if his former colleagues bury the story or even spin it as a good thing. I don't predict he will actually get killed but ask yourself, would you be surprised if he was or does a part of you half exp…

Post by ifyoubuildit » Thu, Feb 16, 2023, 5:27 PM UTC

kthejoker2 wrote: post #391

ifyoubuildit wrote: post #289

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You can find unflattering footage of anybody's supporters. I was never a Trump supporter, but as someone who has friends and family who are/were supporters, I resent the situation where people think like you do. In fact, I think that attitude is part of why these people end up voting for Trump. They know what the cool kids on the blue team say about them when they aren't in the room (hell, even when they are in the r…

But the ones who aren't cartoons don't really do enough to counter the ones who do. Just a bunch of whataboutism and "anything to own the libs" mentality. And honestly being supporters of a person instead of a policy or a position is itself a psychological failing.

Post by croes » Thu, Feb 16, 2023, 5:30 PM UTC

NDizzle wrote: post #407

croes wrote: post #404

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And that's still not "the media" but only a part of it.

What part of the media is that in the united states? Ballpark estimate... Is that the 80% or the 20%, in other words?

Post by onetimeusename » Thu, Feb 16, 2023, 5:31 PM UTC

bigger_inside wrote: post #47

There are literal mountains of sociological studies on how (state and corporate) media have been in service of the powers that be, for decades, and how exactly this works. With a mountain of examples. So, for sociologists, this feels like "wow, it only took half a century to trickle through." Though of course this is the wrong reaction; it has always trickled through. Only that, in the past, it took a few years or de…

Post by ifyoubuildit » Thu, Feb 16, 2023, 5:34 PM UTC

ss108 wrote: post #382

ifyoubuildit wrote: post #289

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You can find unflattering footage of anybody's supporters. I was never a Trump supporter, but as someone who has friends and family who are/were supporters, I resent the situation where people think like you do. In fact, I think that attitude is part of why these people end up voting for Trump. They know what the cool kids on the blue team say about them when they aren't in the room (hell, even when they are in the r…

I had friends who became Trump supporters, and I unfriended them. I believe in morals. I believe in God. There's no way I can be friends with people who, at best, only pay lip service to those concepts while using them to further patent evil. To be clear, I'm not really on the "blue team" either. But that's a team that hasn't been taken over by the worst of its fans, nor is it motivated by things such as xenophobia,…