‘I will show you how safe Telegram is’

Post by [deleted] » Thu, Feb 16, 2023, 4:11 PM UTC

VincentEvans wrote: post #110

vbezhenar wrote: post #24

I monitor Russian war channels and some people there insist on using Telegram only for Russian military people. If you use Whatsapp, Ukrainian officers will get all chats from NATO. Telegram accounts of opposition were hacked by belarus police as well. It's known and documented. My takeaway is that for truly private chat one should write his own software using simple crypto without all those fancy clients. Ideally ju…

There’s no need to “hack” anything in Belarus. They simply resort to torture. https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2022/12/23/critics-slam-16-ye...

Post by lxgr » Thu, Feb 16, 2023, 4:13 PM UTC

nicce wrote: post #93

lxgr wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Open vs. closed source is a completely moot point in the context of iOS and Android if your threat model includes vendor/supply chain attacks.

If you have reproducible builds and you can verify the digest of the app on your phone, difference is like night and day in open-source vs. closed-source projects.

Post by grumple » Thu, Feb 16, 2023, 4:15 PM UTC

vbezhenar wrote: post #24

I monitor Russian war channels and some people there insist on using Telegram only for Russian military people. If you use Whatsapp, Ukrainian officers will get all chats from NATO. Telegram accounts of opposition were hacked by belarus police as well. It's known and documented. My takeaway is that for truly private chat one should write his own software using simple crypto without all those fancy clients. Ideally ju…

Post by entropyneur » Thu, Feb 16, 2023, 4:15 PM UTC

VincentEvans wrote: post #110

vbezhenar wrote: post #24

I monitor Russian war channels and some people there insist on using Telegram only for Russian military people. If you use Whatsapp, Ukrainian officers will get all chats from NATO. Telegram accounts of opposition were hacked by belarus police as well. It's known and documented. My takeaway is that for truly private chat one should write his own software using simple crypto without all those fancy clients. Ideally ju…

There’s no need to “hack” anything in Belarus. They simply resort to torture. https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2022/12/23/critics-slam-16-ye...

Post by nirvgorilla » Thu, Feb 16, 2023, 4:18 PM UTC

officeplant wrote: post #124

ShowalkKama wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

telegram isn't e2e encrypted (unless you use secret chats which nobody does (and those do not support more than 2 participants))

Is there a e2e chat program that actually supports encrypted chats with more than 2 people? We've used telegram e2e but its frustrating since you can't see those chats on desktop at all. (for obvious reasons)