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I monitor Russian war channels and some people there insist on using Telegram only for Russian military people. If you use Whatsapp, Ukrainian officers will get all chats from NATO. Telegram accounts of opposition were hacked by belarus police as well. It's known and documented. My takeaway is that for truly private chat one should write his own software using simple crypto without all those fancy clients. Ideally ju…

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Re: ‘I will show you how safe Telegram is’

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You can put a password on your telegram account.

.. can you reset that password? Using a text message?

No, you can only reset it with an email (that you add when setting up the password) or using an already-active device.

Re: ‘I will show you how safe Telegram is’

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post #33

I monitor Russian war channels and some people there insist on using Telegram only for Russian military people. If you use Whatsapp, Ukrainian officers will get all chats from NATO. Telegram accounts of opposition were hacked by belarus police as well. It's known and documented. My takeaway is that for truly private chat one should write his own software using simple crypto without all those fancy clients. Ideally ju…

> Telegram accounts of opposition were hacked by belarus police as well. It's known and documented. No, not really _hacked_. You give your phone unlocked to the police, and they access your Telegram account. You can't refuse, and you probably can imagine why.

Actually really hacked. What you said also happens of course, but hacks are routine as well. Happened to 2 people I know personally. They do it by intercepting the sms code at the cell operator level.

Re: ‘I will show you how safe Telegram is’

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post #35

I monitor Russian war channels and some people there insist on using Telegram only for Russian military people. If you use Whatsapp, Ukrainian officers will get all chats from NATO. Telegram accounts of opposition were hacked by belarus police as well. It's known and documented. My takeaway is that for truly private chat one should write his own software using simple crypto without all those fancy clients. Ideally ju…

If you and your group chat friends can meet up in person once to input an agreed upon a ~1Gb one-time-pad then you can exchange uncrackable text messages for years on any insecure channel I’ve long felt that this is the ideal solution for anything super super secret

Everyone in that group also has to manage to keep that 1 GB secret.

Re: ‘I will show you how safe Telegram is’

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post #33

I monitor Russian war channels and some people there insist on using Telegram only for Russian military people. If you use Whatsapp, Ukrainian officers will get all chats from NATO. Telegram accounts of opposition were hacked by belarus police as well. It's known and documented. My takeaway is that for truly private chat one should write his own software using simple crypto without all those fancy clients. Ideally ju…

> Telegram accounts of opposition were hacked by belarus police as well. It's known and documented. No, not really _hacked_. You give your phone unlocked to the police, and they access your Telegram account. You can't refuse, and you probably can imagine why.

https://www.wired.com/story/the-kremlin-has-entered-the-chat...

Re: ‘I will show you how safe Telegram is’

#46
"Here he is demoing access to the #Gmail of a purported key political insider in #Kenya just days before the election."

Odd choice of title when the subject of the thread is exposing compromise of elections using vulnerabilities not necessarily native to Gmail or Telegram.

Re: ‘I will show you how safe Telegram is’

#47

I monitor Russian war channels and some people there insist on using Telegram only for Russian military people. If you use Whatsapp, Ukrainian officers will get all chats from NATO. Telegram accounts of opposition were hacked by belarus police as well. It's known and documented. My takeaway is that for truly private chat one should write his own software using simple crypto without all those fancy clients. Ideally ju…

Look into Briar

Re: ‘I will show you how safe Telegram is’

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post #31

I monitor Russian war channels and some people there insist on using Telegram only for Russian military people. If you use Whatsapp, Ukrainian officers will get all chats from NATO. Telegram accounts of opposition were hacked by belarus police as well. It's known and documented. My takeaway is that for truly private chat one should write his own software using simple crypto without all those fancy clients. Ideally ju…

> My takeaway is that for truly private chat one should write his own software That's the only way to make sure you're using software you trust, but rolling your own crypto implementations is often not so secure (because of the many pitfalls).

You don't have to roll your own crypto. You can e.g. just use libsodium which is designed to be easy-to-use and not possible to use incorrectly.

Re: ‘I will show you how safe Telegram is’

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post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Telegram accounts of opposition were hacked by belarus police as well. It's known and documented. No, not really _hacked_. You give your phone unlocked to the police, and they access your Telegram account. You can't refuse, and you probably can imagine why.

Actually really hacked. What you said also happens of course, but hacks are routine as well. Happened to 2 people I know personally. They do it by intercepting the sms code at the cell operator level.

I do not use Telegram: what SMS code?

Re: ‘I will show you how safe Telegram is’

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Actually really hacked. What you said also happens of course, but hacks are routine as well. Happened to 2 people I know personally. They do it by intercepting the sms code at the cell operator level.

I do not use Telegram: what SMS code?

the Two Factor auth to validate is really you after guessing/knowing your pass from a previous leak
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