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Zantac’s maker kept quiet about cancer risks for 40 years

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Re: Zantac’s maker kept quiet about cancer risks for 40 years

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Even something as simple as telling people to store the bottle in the refrigerator...

I think even that was seen as a potential “guilty conscience” risk if things went into litigation, so best to just let people suffer and die, that’s less expensive.

This sort of "we refuse how to tell you to get better results because then some ambulance chaser could use that" behavior is all over the corporate world (albeit less in B2B than B2C).

Re: Zantac’s maker kept quiet about cancer risks for 40 years

#93
Anyone know why famotidine, a similar med (aka Pepcid) doesn't have this problem? Or does it, and we just haven't heard about it? I took famotidine for years, ironically I kept hearing during that time that Zantac was more effective, but never switched.

Re: Zantac’s maker kept quiet about cancer risks for 40 years

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post #55

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Just as a heads up from a professional semi-chemist: dont ingest anything thats been at car temperatures. Its hot enough to chemically alter things, activate diffusions, speed bacterial growth, etc. Its not hot enough to sterilize what you're ingesting.

What is a professional semi-chemist?

Never seen Breaking Bad?

Re: Zantac’s maker kept quiet about cancer risks for 40 years

#95
post #82
post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just as a heads up from a professional semi-chemist: dont ingest anything thats been at car temperatures. Its hot enough to chemically alter things, activate diffusions, speed bacterial growth, etc. Its not hot enough to sterilize what you're ingesting.

What is a professional semi-chemist?

he's only working half the time

Re: Zantac’s maker kept quiet about cancer risks for 40 years

#96

I used to take ranitidine... one day, it suddenly stopped being available at pharmacies. My physician switched me to famotidine, a similar medication, because there were "supply issues" for the foreseeable future. That was almost two years ago. This is the first I'm hearing about this. So for all I know, I was exposed to an unknown amount of carcinogen for years without being told anything about it even after that in…

Ask your doctor what he knew at the time? I'd be wondering what oaths he took to prevent him from telling you the full extent of the supply chain issue.

Re: Zantac’s maker kept quiet about cancer risks for 40 years

#97
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ranitidine was a very, very, very widely used drug. Yet it took 40 years!

Exactly. If you on principle refuse to take any medication or vaccine due to the fact that they almost all have rare, unstudied or potential side effects then that's totally fair. The human body is a very complex thing and every single one of us is different so it's basically impossible to truly know if a drug will have no rare side effects for some sub group. Or at least do extensive deep research on every single me…

How is this relevant to the parent comment?

Every pill of ranitidine would undergo this process in storage, if I understand correctly. Yet it took 40 years for it to finally be confirmed.

Re: Zantac’s maker kept quiet about cancer risks for 40 years

#98

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Even something as simple as telling people to store the bottle in the refrigerator...

if you have to sell your OTC medication in a refrigerator, your sales will drop a lot. It's not somewhere people think to look, and the impression is that it's perishable. Which people can appreciate for something like a steak, but not their "safe and usual" medications.

Paracetamol for children was stored in the fridge and just lived there in my household. It’s a sweet syrupy liquid.

It’s not over-the-counter where I live, but the adult (tablet) version is.

Re: Zantac’s maker kept quiet about cancer risks for 40 years

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What is a professional semi-chemist?

he's only working half the time

Wouldn’t that be a semi-professional chemist?

A professional semi-chemist sounds much more interesting.

Re: Zantac’s maker kept quiet about cancer risks for 40 years

#100
GSK didn't make decisions, people made decisions, and those people need to be named and held responsible.

Putting this on GSK means that the people who knowingly sold a cancer-causing drug while hiding the risks get away without any consequences. Given this went on for 40 years, probably a lot of those people are retired, and won't even lose pay, bonuses, share price, etc.

Meanwhile, assuming this leads to any sort of lawsuits, fines, and lost sales, the people who will pay the price if GSK is held responsible will be shareholders, who likely had no visibility into these decisions, and workers who will be laid off, again without having had any role in these decisions.

This system is fundamentally broken. It's not just a small loophole that can be closed: the entire thing is a loophole that allows sociopaths to exit with the profits of wrongdoing while workers and shareholders pay the consequences. We need to stop letting bad people hide behind corporations.

Name the people responsible, and hold them responsible.

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