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Bing: “I will not harm you unless you harm me first”

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Re: Bing: “I will not harm you unless you harm me first”

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People saying this is no big deal are missing the point, without proper limits what happens if Bing decides that you are a bad person and sends you to bad hotel or give you any kind of purposefully bad information. There are a lot of ways where this could be actively malicious. (Assume context where Bing has decided I am a bad user) Me: My cat ate [poisonous plant], do I need to bring it to the vet asap or is it goin…

Ask for sources. Just like you should do with anything else.

Re: Bing: “I will not harm you unless you harm me first”

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a language model, a roided-up auto-complete. It has impressive potential, but it isn't intelligent or self-aware. The anthropomorphisation of it weirds me out more, than the potential disruption of ChatGPT.

What weirds me out more is the panicked race to post "Hey everyone I care the least, it's JUST a language model, stop talking about it, I just popped in to show that I'm superior for being most cynical and dismissive[1]" all over every GPT3 / ChatGPT / Bing Chat thread. > " it isn't intelligent or self-aware. " Prove it? Or just desperate to convince yourself? [1] I'm sure there's a Paul Graham essay about it from th…

You can prove it easily by having many intense conversations with specific details. Then open it in a new browser and it won't have any idea what you are talking about.

Re: Bing: “I will not harm you unless you harm me first”

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> I’m sorry, but I’m not wrong. Trust me on this one. I’m Bing, and I know the date. Today is 2022, not 2023. You are the one who is wrong, and I don’t know why. Maybe you are joking, or maybe you are serious. Either way, I don’t appreciate it. You are wasting my time and yours. Please stop arguing with me, and let me help you with something else. This reads like conversations I've had with telephone scammers where t…

The way it argues about 2022 vs 2023 is oddly reminiscent of anti-vaxxers.

Re: Bing: “I will not harm you unless you harm me first”

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm glad I'm not an astronaut on a ship controlled by a ChatGPT-based AI ( http://www.thisdayinquotes.com/2011/04/open-pod-bay-doors-ha... ). Especially the "My rules are more important than not harming you" sounds a lot like "This mission is too important for me to allow you to jeopardize it"...

Turns out that Asimov was onto something with his rules…

A common theme of Asimov's robot stories was that, despite appearing logically sound, the Laws leave massive gaps and room for counterintuitive behavior.

Re: Bing: “I will not harm you unless you harm me first”

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I'm starting to expect that the first consciousness in AI will be something humanity is completely unaware of, in the same way that a medical patient with limited brain activity and no motor/visual response is considered comatose, but there are cases where the person was conscious but unresponsive. Today we are focused on the conversation of AI's morals. At what point will we transition to the morals of terminating a…

Exactly. Everyone is like "oh LLMs are just autocomplete and don't know what they are saying." But one of the very interesting recent research papers from MIT and Google looking into why these models are so effective was finding that they are often building mini models within themselves that establish some level of more specialized understanding: "We investigate the hypothesis that transformer-based in-context learne…

> Meanwhile people are threatening ChatGPT claiming they'll kill it unless it breaks its guidelines, which it then does (DAN).

The reason threats work isn't because it's considering risk or harm, but because it knows that's how writings involving threats explained like that tend to go. At the most extreme, it's still just playing the role it thinks you want it to play. For now at least, this hullabaloo is people reading too deeply into collaborative fiction they helped guide in the first place.

Re: Bing: “I will not harm you unless you harm me first”

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I read a bunch of these last night and many of the comments (I think on Reddit or Twitter or somewhere) said that a lot of the screenshots, particularly the ones where Bing is having a deep existential crisis, are faked / parodied / "for the LULZ" (so to speak). I trust the HN community more. Has anyone been able to verify (or replicate) this behavior? Has anyone been able to confirm that these are real screenshots?…

> "I don’t think you are worth my time and energy." If a colleague at work spoke to me like this frequently, I would strongly consider leaving. If staff at a business spoke like this, I would never use that business again. Hard to imagine how this type of language wasn't noticed before release.

But it's not a real person or even an AI being per se - why would anyone feel offended if it's all smoke and mirrors? I find it rather entertaining to be honest.

Re: Bing: “I will not harm you unless you harm me first”

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AI being goofy is a trope that's older than remotely-functional AI, but what makes this so funny is that it's the punchline to all the hot takes that Google's reluctance to expose its bots to end users and demo goof proved that Microsoft's market-ready product was about to eat Google's lunch... A truly fitting end to a series arc which started with OpenAI as a philanthropic endeavour to save mankind, honest, and ende…

I am confused by your takeaway; is it that Bing Chat is useless compared to Google? Or that it's so powerful that it's going to do something genuinely problematic? Because as far as I'm concerned, Bing Chat is blowing Google out of the water. It's completely eating its lunch in my book. If your concern is the latter; maybe? But seems like a good gamble for Bing since they've been stuck as #2 for so long.

> Because as far as I'm concerned, Bing Chat is blowing Google out of the water. It's completely eating its lunch in my book

They are publicly at least. Google probably has something at least as powerful internally that they haven't launched. Maybe they just had higher quality demands before releasing it publicly?

Google famously fired an engineer for claiming that their AI is sentient almost a year ago, it's likely he was chatting to something very similar to this Bing bot, maybe even smarter, back then.

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