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Health concerns grow in East Palestine, Ohio, after train derailment

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Re: Health concerns grow in East Palestine, Ohio, after train derailment

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well it seems Dems put the rule in place, Republicans removed it, and then the Dems didn't act fast enough to re-instate it. if i where to point at who has the most fault it here would be the Republicans.

If someone puts up a tent and someone else purposely burns it down, is the first person partially at fault for not rebuilding it when everyone gets rained on?

no? its the 2nd person for burning it down. full stop.

Re: Health concerns grow in East Palestine, Ohio, after train derailment

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Yes it is, if Obama’s regime had the strength of their convictions to enact the rules they wanted, that train would have been classified hazardous. I found out that classification would have meant it would have the better brakes as well as being shorter and speed limited more. I think an objective look shows multiple failures by 3 different governments to reign in the greed of railroad execs and protect the people in…

Again. Obama tried and couldn't whereas the republicans don't even care. False equivalence which is a typical strategy of republican traitors like you

Obama had a super majority. He could have done anything he wanted.

You’re looking at this through blue colored glasses, go check out my comment history and re-evaluate that last comment.

Re: Health concerns grow in East Palestine, Ohio, after train derailment

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When I hear Ohio and trains I immediately think of the huge federal grants for building a higher speed rail line from Cleveland over Columbus to Cincinnati that were already granted. The same was granted for Wisconsin and Florida. And one by one their governors refused to use these grants to build the infrastructure, and one by one the federal grants were reassigned, until in the end Florida got 2.3 billion dollars f…

so... the grants were unnecessary? Also, how can someone see this catastrophe and still want to go with trains -- 200+ year old tech that is clearly environmentally destructive, doesn't solve last-mile, and can't be parallelized or re-routed, or even rescheduled easily

It’s not more environmentally destructive than any of the alternatives, quite the opposite actually. And it’s the most efficient way to transport cargo and passengers across land.

Re: Health concerns grow in East Palestine, Ohio, after train derailment

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It's listed as a "possible carcinogen". Which would put it in the same category as caffeine. Although it's worth noting that while caffeine would obviously not be that dangerous of a chemical, a giant spill of it would still be an environmental issue.

Caffeine is absolutely deadly toxic to many organisms, including humans. Five grams and you’re very likely to end up dead.

Isn't 5g around 60 cups of coffee? Over what span of time would those need to be ingested?

Re: Health concerns grow in East Palestine, Ohio, after train derailment

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Before you mock the press maybe take a look at how they are being treated in Ohio. This is from a press conference given by the governor last week. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQMLxBpiSu8

I would like to see Ohio law enforcement try that against ABC News, CNN, etc. (they won't) That's what makes this scary - the few independent journalists that are trying to cover this are being locked out, and the national journalists are nowhere to be found.

Sounds just like Russia!

Re: Health concerns grow in East Palestine, Ohio, after train derailment

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If you think “derailment” means “on fire”, we have bigger issues.

You've missed the forest for the trees, friend.

You think there is a forest because you don’t understand what a derailment is. The vast majority of them are benign. They rarely result in cars even tipping over, let alone spilling.

Re: Health concerns grow in East Palestine, Ohio, after train derailment

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Care to share why you think that way?

The chemicals are not very toxic and they have low environmental and biological persistence and they were almost all destroyed in the controlled fire

That's a glass half full perspective! How come so many fish and animals are still dying or are dead in the area?

Re: Health concerns grow in East Palestine, Ohio, after train derailment

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As an OSHA Train-A-Trainer what I'm seeing in the Media is making me cringe. Why aren't the workers wearing chemical respirators? They need to check OSHA Personal Protective Equipment (PPE) Standards so they're protected along with their families. Why isn't OSHA Region 5 dealing with this situation? And lastly, why haven't the citizens of Palestine, OH been evacuated as of yet. This is a serious situation some of these chemicals are carcinogens and cause their lungs, eyes, skin, and even in the long run cause various cancers. Please evacuate as soon as possible before these chemicals affect your health. Here's the OSHA Region 5 Cleveland Office Number (216)447-4194. Stay Healthy and Be Safe.

Re: Health concerns grow in East Palestine, Ohio, after train derailment

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Re: Health concerns grow in East Palestine, Ohio, after train derailment

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No. The problem is how they treat the elections like a popularity contest without regard to how it affects them or their quality of life. It sucks how this will affect them. It really does. However, these are the consequences for voting in people who don't give a shit about you in the slightest.

It is beyond parody to try to blame Trump for this after Biden's recent rail worker action and the fact that he hasn't been president for two years now. Biden has had plenty of time to correct any alleged awful thing Trump did in regards to this industry.

Did I mention Trump? No. Local elections are incredibly important, especially for things like this.
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