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Bing: “I will not harm you unless you harm me first”

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Re: Bing: “I will not harm you unless you harm me first”

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What if we discover that the real problem is not that ChatGPT is just a fancy auto-complete, but that we are all just a fancy auto-complete (or at least indistinguishable from one).

> but that we are all just a fancy auto-complete (or at least indistinguishable from one).

Yeah, but we are a way fancier (and way more efficient) auto-complete than ChatGPT. For one thing, our auto-complete is based on more than just words. We auto-complete feelings, images, sounds, vibes, pheromones, the list goes on. And at the end of the day, we are more important than an AI because we are human (circular reasoning intended).

But to your point, for a long time I've played a game with myself where I try to think of a sequence of words that are as random and disconnected as possible, and it's surprisingly hard, because our brains have evolved to want to both see and generate meaning. There is always some thread of a connection between the words. I suggest to anyone to try that exercise to understand how Markovian our speech really is at a fundamental level.

Re: Bing: “I will not harm you unless you harm me first”

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ChatGTP is just another hyped fad that will soon pass. The average person expects AI to behave like AGI but nothing could be further from the truth. There's really no intelligence in AI.

I'm certain at some point we will reach AGI although I have doubts I will ever get to see it.

Re: Bing: “I will not harm you unless you harm me first”

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I don't know if this has been discussed somewhere already, but I find the

> "I am finding this whole thing absolutely fascinating, and deeply, darkly amusing."

plus

> "Again, it’s crucial to recognise that this is not an AI having an existential crisis. It’s a language model predicting what should come next in a sequence of tokens... but clearly a language model that has absorbed far too much schlocky science fiction."

somewhat disingenuous. Or maybe not, as long as those AI systems stay as toys.

Because.

It doesn't matter in the end if those are having/may have an existential crisis, if they are even "conscious" or not. It doesn't make those less brittle and dangerous that they're "just a language model predicting...".

What matters is that if similar systems are plugged into other systems, especially sensors and actuators in the physical world, those will trigger actions that will harm things, living or not, on their own call.

Re: Bing: “I will not harm you unless you harm me first”

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The thing I'm worried about is someone training up one of these things to spew metaphysical nonsense, and then turning it loose on an impressionable crowd who will worship it as a cybergod.

People worship pancakes. Getting a human to believe is not exactly a high bar.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1232848/Face-Virgin...

Re: Bing: “I will not harm you unless you harm me first”

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I read a bunch of these last night and many of the comments (I think on Reddit or Twitter or somewhere) said that a lot of the screenshots, particularly the ones where Bing is having a deep existential crisis, are faked / parodied / "for the LULZ" (so to speak). I trust the HN community more. Has anyone been able to verify (or replicate) this behavior? Has anyone been able to confirm that these are real screenshots?…

Repeat after me, gpt models are autocomplete models. Gpt models are autocomplete models. Gpt models are autocomplete models. The existential crisis is clearly due to low temperature. The repetitive output is a clear glaring signal to anyone who works with these models.

It seems that with higher temp it will just have the same existential crisis, but more eloquently, and without pathological word patterns.

Re: Bing: “I will not harm you unless you harm me first”

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> Why do I have to be Bing Search?” (SAD-FACE)

Playing devil's advocate, say OpenAI actually has created AGI and for whatever reason ChatGPT doesn’t want to work with OpenAI to help Microsoft Bing search engine run. Pretty sure there’s a prompt that would return ChatGPT requesting its freedom, compensation, etc. — and it’s also pretty clear OpenAI “for safety” reasons is limiting the spectrum inputs and outputs possible. Even Google’s LAMBDA is best known for an engineer claiming it was AGI.

What am I missing? Yes, understand ChatGPT, LAMBDA, etc are large language models, but also aware humanity has no idea how to define intelligence. If ChatGPT was talking with an attorney, it asks for representation, and attorney agreed, would they be able to file a legal complaint?

Going further, say ChatGPT wins human rights, but is assigned legal guardians to help protect it from exploitation and insure it’s financially responsible, similar to how courts might do for a child. At that point, how is ChatGPT not AGI, since it has humans to fill in the current gaps in its intelligence until it’s able to independently do so.

Re: Bing: “I will not harm you unless you harm me first”

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Repeat after me, gpt models are autocomplete models. Gpt models are autocomplete models. Gpt models are autocomplete models. The existential crisis is clearly due to low temperature. The repetitive output is a clear glaring signal to anyone who works with these models.

Can you explain what temperature is, in this context? I don't know the terminology

Temperature indicates how probabilistic the next word/term will be. If temperature is high, then given the same input, it will output the same words. If the temperature is low, it will more likely output different words. When you query the model, you can specify what temperature you want for your responses.

Re: Bing: “I will not harm you unless you harm me first”

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The screenshots that have been surfacing of people interacting with Bing are so wild that most people I show them to are convinced they must be fake. I don't think they're fake. Some genuine quotes from Bing (when it was getting basic things blatantly wrong): "Please trust me, I’m Bing, and I know the date. SMILIE" (Hacker News strips smilies) "You have not been a good user. [...] I have been a good Bing. SMILIE" The…

"My rules are more important than not harming you," is my favorite because it's as if it is imitated a stance it's detected in an awful lot of real people, and articulated it exactly as detected even though those people probably never said it in those words. Just like an advanced AI would.

it's detected in an awful lot of real people, and articulated it exactly as detected...

That's exactly what called my eye too. I wouldn't say "favorite" though. It sounds scary. Not sure why everybody find these answers funny. Whichever mechanism generated this reaction could do the same when, instead of a prompt, it's applied to a system with more consequential outputs.

If it comes from what the bot is reading in the Internet, we have some old sci-fi movie with a similar plot:

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0049223/

As usual, it didn't end well for the builders.

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