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Why shouldn't teachers make six figures? I mean after all, half the people here just put buttons on websites and get paid six figures.
Because teacher salaries, like the salaries of people here, should be determined by the market not by warm and fuzzy feelings.
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Re: Sanders calls for minimum salary of $60000 for public school teachers
#72Teachers don’t work year round. So that 60k salary if adjusted to days worked + pension benefits is equivalent to six figures in the private sector.
Teachers do more work outside of their standard hours than most other professions. I dated a teacher for a long time and she worked much harder for her public school salary (waking up at 6am, prepping, lesson planning, grading, chasing up kids who aren't making it to school, dealing with social workers, etc.), than I do for my cushy six-figure tech job salary. Besides, why shouldn't teachers make six-figures? Why are…
Re: Sanders calls for minimum salary of $60000 for public school teachers
#73Instead, allow for a voucher system where parents can apply the equivalent amount of money the public school spends and apply it towards private schools. Make it easy for teachers to start their own school or coop to compete for vouchers. Definitely a pipe dream but it might work.
Re: Sanders calls for minimum salary of $60000 for public school teachers
#74Instead, allow for a voucher system where parents can apply the equivalent amount of money the public school spends and apply it towards private schools. Make it easy for teachers to start their own school or coop to compete for vouchers. Definitely a pipe dream but it might work.
What a dystopian education system that would be.
Re: Sanders calls for minimum salary of $60000 for public school teachers
#75I'm in NJ where we value public education, for the most part. According to National Center for Education Statistics our average teacher pay was $77,489 in 2022. This is excluding benefits/pension. Well worth it.
If you value education, why does your state have unions that force pay based on seniority and not outcome?
Re: Sanders calls for minimum salary of $60000 for public school teachers
#76Re: Sanders calls for minimum salary of $60000 for public school teachers
#77It makes sense that if public schools hire teachers only from the most academically competent population in a country, and pay them well, those individuals will figure out how to improve the quality of public education.
Some years ago I recall seeing a study by McKinsey which found that a majority of public school teachers in the US came from the bottom of their high-school class and the bottom of their college class.[a] Quite literally the opposite of Finland.
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[a] I found the study. Here it is: https://www.mckinsey.com/~/media/mckinsey/industries/public%...
Re: Sanders calls for minimum salary of $60000 for public school teachers
#78What do you think?
Re: Sanders calls for minimum salary of $60000 for public school teachers
#79Instead, allow for a voucher system where parents can apply the equivalent amount of money the public school spends and apply it towards private schools. Make it easy for teachers to start their own school or coop to compete for vouchers. Definitely a pipe dream but it might work.
It might work in doing what exactly?
Re: Sanders calls for minimum salary of $60000 for public school teachers
#80I'm in NJ where we value public education, for the most part. According to National Center for Education Statistics our average teacher pay was $77,489 in 2022. This is excluding benefits/pension. Well worth it.
If you value education, why does your state have unions that force pay based on seniority and not outcome?
[0]https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/rankings/education