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Sanders calls for minimum salary of $60000 for public school teachers

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Re: Sanders calls for minimum salary of $60000 for public school teachers

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Post by mattwad »

kneebonian wrote: post #38
kennywinker wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

“The two parties are the same, it doesn’t matter who you vote for”

Remind me who was it that closed polling stations in areas with large Sanders support during the primaries again? And why was it that Bloomberg was running for only like 3 weeks right around super Tuesday and then folded after that? Maybe they are the same they just pretend ti act differently in front of the camera?

That's internal politics, not even close to related to destroying public services from our federal government. I'm pissed about what they and the media did to Sanders but I wish that Republicans had done the same to Trump.

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Post by Loughla »

macinjosh wrote: post #39
mempko wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why shouldn't teachers make six figures? I mean after all, half the people here just put buttons on websites and get paid six figures.

Because teacher salaries, like the salaries of people here, should be determined by the market not by warm and fuzzy feelings.

Okay then. What is the market value of a well-educated society?

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Post by mc32 »

CoL differs significantly within states and across the country.

There should be a base plus CoL adjustment adjusted annually to account for inflation or deflation. A flat standard amount for anything does not make sense given the CoL disparities. 60,000 dollars is good for someone in Ukiah CA or Huntsville AL, but not for someone in NYC or Burbank, CA.

Reminds me of lots of things kicking in at $10Gs. A figure that was set in the '70s and has not been revisited since.

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Post by rhino369 »

walthamstow wrote: post #9
bushbaba wrote: post #2

Teachers don’t work year round. So that 60k salary if adjusted to days worked + pension benefits is equivalent to six figures in the private sector.

Good? If you want maths taught by actual maths grads, then you will need six figure salaries to attract them.

Schools wouldn't hire math grads even if they could pay them six figure salaries. You'll just end up paying the same type of people you have now six figures.

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Post by ethanbond »

PaulHoule wrote: post #4
asddubs wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

teachers still have to exist in society all year round though

Then they get a summer job. I remember an elementary school teacher from when I was a kid who was a park ranger in the summer.

Frankly all this stuff boils down to “you get what you pay for.” And for a long time, the US has gotten a lot more than they paid for because there are people willing to take huge hits on QOL and pay to help kids.

But really the folks who have always been antagonistic to teachers showed their cards through the pandemic when they staked out the position that teachers are public enemy #1 for not wanting to literally risk their lives for a public that treats them like a punching bag year in and year out. You know, stupid “Teachers’ Nights” at baseball games aside.

If you want a gradual regression to abysmal education, sure, pay ‘em pennies and then we can instead pay for an uneducated populace via higher crime rates, lower civic participation, lower economic productivity, higher welfare burden, more homelessness, etc etc.

Good trade!

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Post by bmmayer1 »

kshahkshah wrote: post #24

I'm in NJ where we value public education, for the most part. According to National Center for Education Statistics our average teacher pay was $77,489 in 2022. This is excluding benefits/pension. Well worth it.

How come 78% of low income fourth graders in NJ can't read?[0]

[0]https://acnj.org/newsroom/news-releases/nj-4th-graders-score...

Re: Sanders calls for minimum salary of $60000 for public school teachers

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Post by kube-system »

mynameisvlad wrote: post #18
madsbuch wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not American, so a couple of questions: 1. Is it normal for teachers to have alternative income for the days they don't work? 2. Sounds like the term "six figures" has a special meaning other than just being in the range 100.000 - 999.999? It appears like there is a connotation that it is a special things to achieve in your life. 3. Taking inflation into account, shouldn't it soon be normal to earn that amount (when…

Answering #2, six figures refers to the number of digits in your paycheck, so 100k+ Lmao the downvotes are hilarious. I literally am explaining something the parent comment wanted to know. They didn't even have the bit about "100.000-999.999" when this comment was posted, as evidenced by another person quoting the original comment and the commenter saying they clarified the question.

And for the international audience, Americans cite salaries pre-tax. So a $100,000 salary means people earn somewhere around $80,000 after tax depending on their situation and where they live. And then further deduct benefits and retirement savings from that. About $60,000 might actually hit your bank account if you have a 100k salary.
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