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Sanders calls for minimum salary of $60000 for public school teachers

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Re: Sanders calls for minimum salary of $60000 for public school teachers

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Then they get a summer job. I remember an elementary school teacher from when I was a kid who was a park ranger in the summer.

Do you realize how dystopian that is?

People working year round is dystopian?

Re: Sanders calls for minimum salary of $60000 for public school teachers

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Teachers don’t work year round. So that 60k salary if adjusted to days worked + pension benefits is equivalent to six figures in the private sector.

Good? If you want maths taught by actual maths grads, then you will need six figure salaries to attract them.

That's the problem, they don't want kids to actually learn. They view teachers as glorified babysitters.

Re: Sanders calls for minimum salary of $60000 for public school teachers

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Teachers don’t work year round. So that 60k salary if adjusted to days worked + pension benefits is equivalent to six figures in the private sector.

Teachers do more work outside of their standard hours than most other professions. I dated a teacher for a long time and she worked much harder for her public school salary (waking up at 6am, prepping, lesson planning, grading, chasing up kids who aren't making it to school, dealing with social workers, etc.), than I do for my cushy six-figure tech job salary. Besides, why shouldn't teachers make six-figures? Why are…

> Besides, why shouldn't teachers make six-figures?

Exactly. Compared to what I do, educating 15-20 future citizens and adults seems on par.

And to your broader point, indeed, the average US teacher at this point is 1/5 lesson planning, 3/5 instruction, 1/10 social worker, and 1/10 data entry/report filing.

Re: Sanders calls for minimum salary of $60000 for public school teachers

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

teachers still have to exist in society all year round though

Then they get a summer job. I remember an elementary school teacher from when I was a kid who was a park ranger in the summer.

One of the best teachers I ever had was our middle school chemistry teacher. He had to lifeguard during the summer to support his family. That seems pretty crazy to me.

Re: Sanders calls for minimum salary of $60000 for public school teachers

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Teachers don’t work year round. So that 60k salary if adjusted to days worked + pension benefits is equivalent to six figures in the private sector.

I don't understand these comparisons. Sure, the pay per hour worked might be the same as someone who works full time year around and earns $100k annually. But that doesn't mean teachers are paid $100k. They're still paid $60k. It's a $60k job with some large blocks of time off.

Re: Sanders calls for minimum salary of $60000 for public school teachers

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Teachers don’t work year round. So that 60k salary if adjusted to days worked + pension benefits is equivalent to six figures in the private sector.

How dare we reap privilege on babysitters freeing devops engineers to copy-paste off stackoverflow

Re: Sanders calls for minimum salary of $60000 for public school teachers

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“The two parties are the same, it doesn’t matter who you vote for”

Remind me who was it that closed polling stations in areas with large Sanders support during the primaries again?

And why was it that Bloomberg was running for only like 3 weeks right around super Tuesday and then folded after that?

Maybe they are the same they just pretend ti act differently in front of the camera?

Re: Sanders calls for minimum salary of $60000 for public school teachers

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Teachers don’t work year round. So that 60k salary if adjusted to days worked + pension benefits is equivalent to six figures in the private sector.

Why shouldn't teachers make six figures? I mean after all, half the people here just put buttons on websites and get paid six figures.

Because teacher salaries, like the salaries of people here, should be determined by the market not by warm and fuzzy feelings.

Re: Sanders calls for minimum salary of $60000 for public school teachers

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

teachers still have to exist in society all year round though

Then they get a summer job. I remember an elementary school teacher from when I was a kid who was a park ranger in the summer.

Wouldn't summer be the perfect time to update their knowledge? University students are of on vacation, meaning that the professors are available to train the school teachers.
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