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Re: Show HN: I made Hacker News but for research papers

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I came here as well to recommend the DOI. So many nice things can be had by using this rather than your own IDs, it means that site now becomes a tool that composes with other tools.

I'm always interested in hearing about less-than-mainstream uses of DOIs.

The DOI is a natural foreign key, look at semantic scholar and the integrations that arxiv is doing in the bottom 1/3. You are generating your own IDs, so you won't compose with the rest of the ecosystem.

Your keys mean nothing and given a handle to a paper, they can't reference your site.

Re: Show HN: I made Hacker News but for research papers

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What you'll discover is that the moment this falls off the HN front page, your traffic goes to zero. You'll need to manually recruit users, every day, typically by going to wherever they are. Twitter is your friend here. DM everyone you can, and keep checking in with them to see if they're getting value out of it. My personal experience was that I showed up, was delighted to see so many relevant papers, but then lost…

All good points. To be honest, I hate Twitter so I don't know if I'll be trying to share it on there, but I agree that promoting discussions is the way to go. PS Fixed the voting algorithm (was using ASC instead of DESC). Probably needs more work but thanks for pointing it out!

loll if you're not willing to do whatever it takes to promote your site and get engagement it'll die. I also dislike Twitter, but it is the perfect place to promote this.

Re: Show HN: I made Hacker News but for research papers

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What you'll discover is that the moment this falls off the HN front page, your traffic goes to zero. You'll need to manually recruit users, every day, typically by going to wherever they are. Twitter is your friend here. DM everyone you can, and keep checking in with them to see if they're getting value out of it. My personal experience was that I showed up, was delighted to see so many relevant papers, but then lost…

All good points. To be honest, I hate Twitter so I don't know if I'll be trying to share it on there, but I agree that promoting discussions is the way to go. PS Fixed the voting algorithm (was using ASC instead of DESC). Probably needs more work but thanks for pointing it out!

+1 to @sillysaurusx's comment. I'd like to add on a recommendation to read The Cold Start Problem by Andrew Chen. It goes into the trials and tribulations of creating a product dependent on network effects.

More than just a problem of no longer having an "artificial" influx of users via HN, you will need to figure out how to build what Chen calls an "Atomic Network" of users who are self-sustaining on the platform. The first step to that end will be figuring out how to attract the "hard side" of the network (i.e. people who find good papers and post them). What keeps them coming back?

I'd highly recommend considering what the smallest network of users would be that could sustain something like Paperlist and what features they might want.

Some questions that might be helpful to get started: * What incentive does a given user have to return to the site? * How would a user be drawn back to the site, e.g. RSS, notifications, etc.? * What incentive does a user have to contribute to Paperlist over submitting to HN, reddit, etc.? * How do you attract a new user the to site? Put another way: how do you increase the "virality" of Paperlist? E.g. why would someone link to Paperlist today instead of Arxiv?

I hope this is helpful.

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