Sorry to hear that! Curious what you think of DO now? I've always loved DO but I've found it REALLY hard to recommend we us it at work
I mean, I don't want this to be the "kicking them while they're down thread", but I always wondered how a little guy is supposed to compete with AWS. I say that as someone who was there firsthand to watch Rackspace get crushed by them.
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#62Earlier quoted context omitted.
> My point is, layoffs will continue until companies are much more efficient, or interest rates go down. Exactly what the FED wanted.
how does interest rate affects company layoffs and why is being more efficient affects that? and why would FED want this? - serious question
The Federal Reserve wants to raise rates for multiple reasons. One is to try to slow inflation. Another is to try and salvage the dollar as the global currency. Yet another reason is to try and save the banking system. The overnight market has seen a lot of activity and change over the years as banks operate on slimmer margins with low required reserves. Raising interest rates will get people to park money in banks and help to ameliorate the heat.
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#63The layoffs will continue until productivity improves /s
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#64Earlier quoted context omitted.
Very sorry to hear that, though you seem to have a fairly good outlook about it. Excuse me if it's callous to ask this at this time, but as I've been observing layoffs and been hearing that people are immediately shut down from their systems, I'm wondering: how do they communicate it to you if you can't access your email? Do they reach out to your personal email, call you, send you a letter? I might understand revoki…
I don't understand why it's necessary to treat employees with such sudden distrust. It is necessary to immediately cut off all access? These employees aren't being fired because they are suspected of perpetrating a crime, right? I I understand the need for layoffs, but I can't respect an organization/leadership that treats people so coldly. This behavior also affects non-fired employees that may have a need to ask kn…
Obviously, every company should have good access controls in place that would prevent this from a regular employee. But that's not always possible and at the end of the day, some employees have to have those privileges. It's easier to just immediately lock them out of anything and avoid any potential damage. It seems cold to you (and it probably is), but even one ex-employee going rogue before lock-out could be disastrous. And that's without going into the "ex-employee drags down team morale by ranting about company/job" aspect and in many cases insurance companies will require it. It's just not worth it, even at a much smaller company than DO like where I work.
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#65Hearing that a lot of Community teams were let go, including the teams responsible for tutorials. Seems obvious DigitalOcean doesn't care about developers anymore. But this has been obvious for a while now. I guess their value "Our Community is bigger than just us" only matters when profits are up. Pour one out for DigitalOcean. It's the end of an era.
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#66Same here. Rolled over in bed to an email from Yancey to my personal email. Went to my laptop, can't log in, Slack is also dead. Early Spring Break!
Very sorry to hear that, though you seem to have a fairly good outlook about it. Excuse me if it's callous to ask this at this time, but as I've been observing layoffs and been hearing that people are immediately shut down from their systems, I'm wondering: how do they communicate it to you if you can't access your email? Do they reach out to your personal email, call you, send you a letter? I might understand revoki…
For those who were fired, infosec ran a script during the CEO call to pull their access packages for production systems, crank the data-loss protection systems on their laptops up to high, boot them from Slack, and prevent them from sending & receiving emails to non-HR folks. After their "fired" email they received an invite to talk with HR to provide updated contact information. Then infosec pushed a new password to their account & force shutdown their workstation.
If it sounds brutal, it was. But the layoffs I was involved at a previous company were handled much differently, more traditionally: CEO announcement at 9am, and then you spent the rest of the day agonizing and waiting if you're going to get a :15 private calendar invite from your manager titled "Employment", or if you'd make it to the end of the day with no news (good news!). I'd almost argue that moving fast was more merciful than this, but that's easy for me because I wasn't fired either time.
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#67Hearing that a lot of Community teams were let go, including the teams responsible for tutorials. Seems obvious DigitalOcean doesn't care about developers anymore. But this has been obvious for a while now. I guess their value "Our Community is bigger than just us" only matters when profits are up. Pour one out for DigitalOcean. It's the end of an era.
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#68Have been a mostly happy DO customer for some time. Would be interested to know if the layoffs were carried off skillfully/compassionately or messily/carelessly.
I was also a happy DO customer for the last 5 years or so. But now I'm locked out of my account.
My fault for losing my codes (DO are the only backup codes I can't seem to find where I kept them... oddly they are not in my password manager) but they have a process in place for this and don't follow it. I'd be less annoyed if I was told it was my fault and there wasn't an avenue to receive support than being told I can go to support and then get ignored...
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#70Earlier quoted context omitted.
I mean, I don't want this to be the "kicking them while they're down thread", but I always wondered how a little guy is supposed to compete with AWS. I say that as someone who was there firsthand to watch Rackspace get crushed by them.
IMO what DO had going for them was simplicity. If I was in the market for a no-nonsense VPS I could see myself going with them over AWS.