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Last Flight Out

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Re: Last Flight Out

#51
post #41

What happens if someone has a true medical emergency? Like heart attack or burst appendix? Are they stranded? I feel like this fear would be lingering over me the entire time.

Usually in such outcast places they have a room equipped for light surgery and some emergency procedures. You won't receive the same level of care that you would have in a proper hospital, but they should be able to at least do some "temporary fix" while transportation to a proper hospital is arranged if needed. Appendectomy shouldn't be a problem.

Re: Last Flight Out

#52
post #41

What happens if someone has a true medical emergency? Like heart attack or burst appendix? Are they stranded? I feel like this fear would be lingering over me the entire time.

Well, yes. There's the famous case of when a station's only doctor had appendicitis so he removed his own [1], and another who had to do her own cancer biopsy and chemotherapy [2]. The equations may be simple but they are still very cold.

[1] Leonid Rogozov, 1961. https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-32481442

[2] Jerri Nielsen, 1998. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerri_Nielsen

Re: Last Flight Out

#53
post #13

How are the interpersonal relationships like being stuck with others for months

Apparently not great if you're a woman: https://arstechnica.com/science/2023/02/as-antarctic-fieldwo...

Jesus christ.

"In one online survey published in PLOS ONE and covered by Science in 2014, 71% of 512 female respondents reported being sexually harassed during fieldwork; 84% of them were trainees."

"In the NSF report, one interviewee said she’d been told on her first day at McMurdo to stay clear of a certain building unless she “wanted to be raped.” Another woman said she felt like she was seen as “prey” no matter where she was physically on the base."

"Another was so "freaked out" by the pervasive sexual harassment that she began carrying around a hammer."

"Another survivor of sexual harassment said she didn't report the incident for fear her employer would fire her; when she could no longer cope, she quit."

This fucking David Marchant guy was a fucking terror. Holy shit. (https://www.science.org/content/article/disturbing-allegatio...)

"Boston University suspended prominent Antarctic geologist David Marchant with pay. Multiple women had come forward with allegations of sexual harassment against him"

"The first complainant, Jane Willenbring, now an associate professor at the Scripps Institution of Oceanography, part of the University of California, San Diego, alleges that Marchant repeatedly shoved her down a steep slope, pelted her with rocks while she was urinating in the field, called her a "slut" and a "whore," and urged her to have sex with his brother, who was also on the trip."

"According to Willenbring, Marchant told her repeatedly that his brother had a "porn-sized" penis, and said she should have sex with him and feel lucky for the opportunity." "One week, Willenbring alleges, David Marchant "decided that he would throw rocks at me every time I urinated in the field." She cut her water consumption so she could last the 12-hour days far from camp without urinating, then drank liters at night. She says she developed a urinary tract infection and urinary incontinence, which has since recurred. When blood appeared in her urine, she alleges, Marchant prohibited her from going back to McMurdo for treatment."

"The second complainant, Deborah Doe (a pseudonym), who was in Antarctica for two austral summers during this era, reports that Marchant called her a "c--t" and a "bitch" repeatedly. She alleges that he promised to block her access to research funding should she earn a Ph.D. She abandoned her career dreams and left academe."

"A third woman, Hillary Tulley, a Skokie, Illinois, high school teacher, describes her experience in a supporting letter filed with BU investigators. "His taunts, degrading comments about my body, brain, and general inadequacies never ended," she writes. She claims Marchant tried to exhaust her into leaving Antarctica. "Every day was terrifying," she says in an interview with Science."

Re: Last Flight Out

#54
post #13

How are the interpersonal relationships like being stuck with others for months

Apparently not great if you're a woman: https://arstechnica.com/science/2023/02/as-antarctic-fieldwo...

From the 274 page NSF report on sexual harassment/assault in the Antarctic[1]:

>“a very young woman, [who] had never been on the ice before. Somehow, she slipped away from us and went out to the bar . . . and I was like ‘Oh my god, did we forget to tell her she was prey?’” One survey respondent wrote, “I was told [of] certain guys, by name, to stay clear of and there were several guys who harassed me. Hell, my very first day at McMurdo I was told to stay clear of Building [X] unless I wanted to be raped.”

Wow, I had no idea it was this bad. Being stationed at one of these sites is a life-long dream come true for many of these scientists. It must be terrible for the women who learn of this situation when they get out there.

[1] https://www.nsf.gov/geo/opp/documents/USAP%20SAHPR%20Report....

Re: Last Flight Out

#55
post #13

How are the interpersonal relationships like being stuck with others for months

Apparently not great if you're a woman: https://arstechnica.com/science/2023/02/as-antarctic-fieldwo...

That's a shame. It sounds like a workplace from the 70's, or worse.

Re: Last Flight Out

#57
post #41

What happens if someone has a true medical emergency? Like heart attack or burst appendix? Are they stranded? I feel like this fear would be lingering over me the entire time.

That's why in Villas Las Estrellas they require residents to have their appendix to be removed: https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20180810-villas-las-estre...

Re: Last Flight Out

#58
post #16

If you're interested in the people and personalities and activities at the South Pole, the Werner Herzog film Encounters at the End of the World is a revealing and interesting documentary. It includes a fascinating part about a deluded penguin choosing to leave its flock and begin a fatal journey towards the center of the island... - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Encounters_at_the_End_of_the_W... - https://www.imdb.c…

The famous scene[0] from this film is a masterpiece. It never fails to sink me to my nadir, so I avoid watching it even if I love it so much. [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnTU_hJoByA

Amazing, thanks for sharing.

Re: Last Flight Out

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post #16

If you're interested in the people and personalities and activities at the South Pole, the Werner Herzog film Encounters at the End of the World is a revealing and interesting documentary. It includes a fascinating part about a deluded penguin choosing to leave its flock and begin a fatal journey towards the center of the island... - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Encounters_at_the_End_of_the_W... - https://www.imdb.c…

FYI, many people who spent time at McMurdo around the filming of Encounters are not big fans. The interviews were intentionally set up to make people look weird. The narration implies there's something wrong with "polar people." You might find us dissapointingly normal.

A Year On Ice is a more accurate representation.

I'm in Frozen Planet, but you can't believe all the narration in that either.

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