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BBC offices in India raided by tax officials amid Modi documentary fallout

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KingOfCoders wrote: post #155
amriksohata wrote: post #110

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An equivalent list could be made, just with the numbers of 400k Hindus that were exodus in Kashmir. Thats not the point, the point is the view from India is a British outlet like the BBC is meddling with Indian upcoming elections. There is already decades of suspicion around what the British did to create divides between Hindus and Muslims with partition, so this is treated with high suspicion.

1. "Muslims and Hindus have found peace since the event" 2. "An equivalent list could be made, just with the numbers of 400k Hindus that were exodus in Kashmir." Thanks for proving my point. [Edit] "Muslims and Hindus have found peace since the event" "In November 2022, at an election rally in Khambhat [Gujarat], Indian Home Minister Amit Shah boasted of demolitions undertaken by the BJP in Muslim areas. By emphasizi…

they were rohingya areas, yes muslim, but a immigrant community that had illegaly created settlements, nothing to do with them following islam, does not make one above law and order

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Post by trasz3 »

orbital223 wrote: post #184
FooBarWidget wrote: post #152

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I'm Chinese. I'm not commenting on Russia but please keep China out of "trivially easy to prove that the West is better for its own citizens". Chinese citizen have been found to be far more satisfied with their government and their future prospects than for example the US. This "propaganda"-sounding fact is even something found by western institutions such as Harvard, York University and Democracy Perception Index! E…

> keep China out of "trivially easy to prove that the West is better for its own citizens" China has concentration camps.

>China has concentration camps.

So does USA. It’s called the prison system. Except USA is imprisoning many more people, per capita.

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Post by iso1631 »

KingOfCoders wrote: post #193
blincoln wrote: post #188

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> How is that related to the BBC? I think iso1631 is saying that there may be enough red tape for imports into India that the BBC could technically be breaking the law for failing to declare/pay duties on some equipment they or their employees brought into the country. If you're in the US, my experience is that it's kind of an anomaly in terms of relatively light enforcement of import taxes for individual citizens. F…

Yes, but how is the BBC responsible for their employees buying phones and bringing them in the country? Was the BBC telling their employees to do this? It wasn't the employees home raided but the BBC office.

> Yes, but how is the BBC responsible for their employees buying phones and bringing them in the country? Was the BBC telling their employees to do this?

Well yes

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Post by trasz3 »

andreiii wrote: post #227
eunos wrote: post #90

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The old mantra "Ouside of Liberalism, there will be no prosperity" showing its crack. Western Liberal world order is not invincible anymore.

All the prosperity in the non-liberal World is just a gift from the Western Liberal world. There would be not much prosperity in India or China w/o Western companies outsourcing operations over there. Once a middle class is built things start rolling by themselves but til then let's not kid ourselves that the prosperity in these iliberal countries was home-built.

Yeah, look at all the prosperity the liberal East India Company brought there.

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Post by dragonwriter »

trasz3 wrote: post #334
andreiii wrote: post #227

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All the prosperity in the non-liberal World is just a gift from the Western Liberal world. There would be not much prosperity in India or China w/o Western companies outsourcing operations over there. Once a middle class is built things start rolling by themselves but til then let's not kid ourselves that the prosperity in these iliberal countries was home-built.

Yeah, look at all the prosperity the liberal East India Company brought there.

> the liberal East India Company

What liberal East India Company? There were a number of EICs, but all of them I can think of (certainly most especially the British) were mercantilist and parts of mercantilist national policies, not liberal.

The mercantilism of British policy and the British EIC were, actually, a quite important factor in both the US push for independence and its ideological connection with liberalism.

While liberalism might eventually have become a nearly consensus ideology in the West, but it certainly wasn’t in the late 18th Century and it certainly wasn’t the ideology of or behind colonialism.

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Post by trasz3 »

ch4s3 wrote: post #299
lappet wrote: post #296

While this is a major misstep in my opinion, I think there is a major imbalance in reputable media in the world. We need more non-Western sources of media that are respected. People are realizing, as in this case, that Western countries have skeletons in their cupboards too, and will stop respecting Western media establishments. Imagine China sanctioning the US for treating black people with impunity.

This is an awful take. Western media covers scandals in western governments regularly. You could also always check out Al Jazeera, if you know what their slant is on middle east coverage. Also comparing anything going on in the US for the last 60 years to the genocide happening in Xinjiang is ridiculous on its face.

>Also comparing anything going on in the US for the last 60 years to the genocide happening in Xinjiang is ridiculous on its face.

Indeed - the fact that black people are being killed and incarcerated for their skin colour in USA is well documented, whereas the “genocide” is mostly just a propaganda tool.

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Post by trasz3 »

dragonwriter wrote: post #336
trasz3 wrote: post #334

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Yeah, look at all the prosperity the liberal East India Company brought there.

> the liberal East India Company What liberal East India Company? There were a number of EICs, but all of them I can think of (certainly most especially the British) were mercantilist and parts of mercantilist national policies, not liberal. The mercantilism of British policy and the British EIC were, actually, a quite important factor in both the US push for independence and its ideological connection with liberalis…

It wasn’t the ideology behind, sure, but the end result was the same.

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Post by dragonwriter »

trasz3 wrote: post #338
dragonwriter wrote: post #336

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> the liberal East India Company What liberal East India Company? There were a number of EICs, but all of them I can think of (certainly most especially the British) were mercantilist and parts of mercantilist national policies, not liberal. The mercantilism of British policy and the British EIC were, actually, a quite important factor in both the US push for independence and its ideological connection with liberalis…

It wasn’t the ideology behind, sure, but the end result was the same.

> It wasn’t the ideology behind, sure, but the end result was the same.

That’s unsupportable with evidence because we don’t have a world to test the effects of liberalism in an environment where it isn’t a reaction against established mercanitilism in a number of empires, one of which alone controls a sizable fraction of the globe, but I’m going to say, no, its not.

(I will admit that one problem with economic liberalism is that it tends to entrench existing inequalities, including those produced by pre-existing mercantilist arrangements, but that’s very different than producing the same results.)

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