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Post by CameronNemo »

bovermyer wrote: post #41

Is it just me, or are authoritarian regimes on the rise world-wide?

I am not sure about worldwide. I see no trends in Latin America or Africa. Notably, the Mexican president recently decided not to pursue constitutional changes to lengthen his rule, despite his supporters calling for that. And despite a stressful transfer of power from Bolsonaro to Lula in Brazil, it did go through without major bloodshed.

But Israel, Turkiye, and India are in a bad state. Netanyahu, Erdogan, and Modi are quickly tightening their grips on their respective governments.

Also I know China is not considered to be a democracy, but the past few leaders before Xi only lasted about 10 years each, while Xi is seeking a much longer rule.

I am not aware of any major changes in Europe, or the rest of Asia.

Israel, Turkiye, India, China, and Russia are heavy weights, though. So definitely something to watch for moving forward.

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Post by KingOfCoders »

MichaelZuo wrote: post #305
KingOfCoders wrote: post #290

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is an investigation (for that we have the police) on how it got there and who is responsible and if something illegal (determined first by the prosecution office and then determined by a court) was going on.

And if the perpetrator cannot be found? Who pays out for the damages ultimately?

In Germany the guilt has to be proven by the prosecution and you need to be sentenced by the court. If this can't be done, no one is hold accountable.

If something stolen is found in an office, and the company has nothing to do with it, the company is not held responsible for the theft.

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Post by webmobdev »

mikehotel wrote: post #192
rozab wrote: post #133

The bizarre thing is how balanced the documentary actually is if you watch it. Many senior BJP officials are given plenty of time to defend their case. It focuses on provable events, things which were captured on video or public legal proceedings. If this has received such extreme backlash, I'd hate to see what happens to an actual opinionated news outlet

Check out what happened to the founders of https://www.altnews.in/ , a fact checking website. Some would argue they are opinionated but judge for yourself. https://archive.ph/uEqAc https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alt_News

And Karan Thapar is now "jobless" (in the sense that no reputed media house is willing to work with him because of pressure from the government) too -

- Why Modi Walked Out in 2007 and the BJP Now Shuns Me: https://thewire.in/books/narendra-modi-karan-thapar-intervie...

- How India's ace journalist was punished for confronting Prime Minister Modi: https://www.trtworld.com/magazine/how-india-s-ace-journalist...

Recently, NDTV also saw some high-profile senior editors and journalists exit after Adani (Modi's crony capitalist buddy) bought it.

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Post by ignoramous »

naravara wrote: post #291
mikehotel wrote: post #246

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Do you think there is a rise in fascist actions and rhetoric in India? And that the majority of Indians are threatened by this? Thanks for correcting me on OBC and Dalits. The framework is definitely problematic. And it adds another layer of complexity to racial, religious, and economic demographics. Thanks for prompting me to learn more about this. https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2021/06/29/attitudes-ab...

I would hesitate to characterize everything happening as fascist since that's a loaded term and I think it brings in a lot of baggage when transposed cross-culturally that confuses more than it clears up. I think there has been a rise in extremism and political violence that is largely, but not exclusively, driven by the hard right. And I think Modi has a particularly callous, realpolitik approach to governance that…

So it is fascism in all but name? Gotcha.

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Post by FooBarWidget »

vain wrote: post #307
FooBarWidget wrote: post #152

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I'm Chinese. I'm not commenting on Russia but please keep China out of "trivially easy to prove that the West is better for its own citizens". Chinese citizen have been found to be far more satisfied with their government and their future prospects than for example the US. This "propaganda"-sounding fact is even something found by western institutions such as Harvard, York University and Democracy Perception Index! E…

@FooBarWidget, I take it you're not uighur?

I'm not, but I'm in contact with a Uyhur as well as a non-Uyghur Xinjiang resident, and I've researched this topic for a long time. See also my other reply: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34789836

TLDR: heavy-handed anti-terrorism response, even if it deserves criticism, is not at all the same as "millions in concentration camps", "forced labor" or even "genocide". Many allegations you read in the media are grave distortions of reality for the purpose of geopolitical attacks and fostering consent for a war against China.

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Post by soperj »

adwww wrote: post #260
aliqot wrote: post #186

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are you perhaps a teen? that's a magnet link, its used to transfer things via bittorrent. we used to put them in the spokes of our bicycles when we'd ride down to the five-and-dime

I've not torrented in at least a decade, and I don't remember seeing magnet links inline in text like that. Certainly don't miss those hours of waiting for an ISO to download only to find it's all corrupt, or a record label plant, or a handheld recording of a cinema screen...

> Certainly don't miss those hours of waiting

I think you mean 2 decades. I haven't waited an hour for anything to download since I used to grab bootleg concerts that were very poorly seeded in the early/mid aughts.

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Post by dmoy »

AbrahamParangi wrote: post #268
andreygrehov wrote: post #201

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I somewhat disagree. To me, it looks like many countries are trying to diverge from the sphere of influence of the US, and US doesn’t want that happening. When the big media portrays every other country as dangerous, authoritarian, etc., it’s always interesting to seek for motivation behind the claims. As a quick example, Brooklyn is much more dangerous than pretty much anywhere in Moscow. I can’t imagine NYTimes or…

I was curious about that stat on crime rates in Moscow vs Brooklyn but I can’t find any evidence that it is true. In 2022 there were 138 homicides in Brooklyn which comes out to 4.98 homicides per 100k residents. In comparison in Moscow Oblast there were 6.9 homicides per 100k residents (in 2017, which is the latest year I can find information for this stat). So at least by homicides, Moscow seems more dangerous.

Homicide in Russia is weirdly undercounted too. (Though idk if that carries to Moscow specifically, or just the country as a whole)

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Post by tptacek »

rayiner wrote: post #252
iamshs wrote: post #154

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What post-colonial narrative does BBC spew? If you see BBC regional languages programs, you will see that it platforms RSS-BJP's Hindu Nationalistic rhetoric to a far greater degree.

Western notions of what liberal democracy should look like (multi-cultural, multi-religious, etc.) is a colonial imposition on India: https://unherd.com/2021/04/the-culture-wars-of-post-colonial...

"Meanwhile, Hindu nationalists have been courting allies against their Leftist antagonists, which sometimes results in strange connections to Western white nationalists", writes the Taki's Magazine contributor. Perhaps in this one instance, the West's notion of what liberal democracy should look like is correct. Not every idea the liberal west has is, but the alternatives to these two ideas are horrible.

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Post by andreygrehov »

AbrahamParangi wrote: post #309
andreygrehov wrote: post #303

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Here are some stats to back my claims: https://www.numbeo.com/crime/compare_cities.jsp?country1=Uni... The numbers clearly show that in general Moscow is much safer. Index Brooklyn, NY Moscow Crime Index: 45.75 36.86 Safety Scale: 54.25 63.14

These aren't actually stats! You can't take a bunch of opinions and put a number on each one and call the result quantitative! Murders per 100k is a statistic. Violent crime rate is a statistic. Pick a statistic that is a reasonable representation of danger (I think homicide rate is a reasonable one) and show that Moscow is lower on that statistic than Brooklyn.

I mean, don't like the numbers? Heh. Here is Statista - https://www.statista.com/statistics/1045368/homicide-rate-in...

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Post by weaksauce »

thefounder wrote: post #300
LinuxBender wrote: post #174

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The two parts appear to be on Rumble [1][2] It seems that yt-dlp [3] works with Rumble so you don't even have to visit the site. [1] - https://rumble.com/v26y14s-india-the-modi-question-part-1-by... [829.13MiB via yt-dlp] [2] - https://rumble.com/v271ob0-india-the-modi-question-part-2-by... [341.35MiB via yt-dlp] [3] - https://github.com/yt-dlp/yt-dlp.git

What is this website rumble? Never heard of it

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