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Early February? We are barely halfway through February now. Phrasing early February makes it seem like it wasn’t in the last two weeks!
Health concerns grow in East Palestine, Ohio, after train derailment
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Re: Health concerns grow in East Palestine, Ohio, after train derailment
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So you're saying that being concerned with the massive corporate attack on the health of innocent people is actually Chinese propaganda?
And one of your "sources" is a post liked 3k times in a nation of over 1 billion people?
Re: Health concerns grow in East Palestine, Ohio, after train derailment
#123Earlier quoted context omitted.
> which can cause headaches, nausea, and respiratory problems.... can make people dizzy and drowsy I also love this phrasing that talks about the immediate uncomfortable reactions, but makes no mention on the extremely serious long-term implications of exposure. These chemicals won't just make you feel unpleasant in the moment, they'll kill you in the long run.
> can make people dizzy and drowsy LMFAO vinyl chloride is a multi-organ carcinogen...its literally one of the quickest ways to stage 4 right up there with Benzene exposure. phosgene was also part of the release when Ohio decided a "controlled burn" of the vinyl chloride was somehow a good idea. the plume could be seen from commercial flights. honest to god the damage control media outlets are attempting in the midst…
> honest to god the damage control media outlets are attempting in the midst of what by every definition is just under a massive environmental disaster is just ridiculous. If this happened in China it would be front page news.
Is it damage control or just some strange calculation that it isn't a story that will attract page views?
Both rationales are concerning, but they suggest different pathologies in our media ecosystem.
Re: Health concerns grow in East Palestine, Ohio, after train derailment
#124Earlier quoted context omitted.
> which can cause headaches, nausea, and respiratory problems.... can make people dizzy and drowsy I also love this phrasing that talks about the immediate uncomfortable reactions, but makes no mention on the extremely serious long-term implications of exposure. These chemicals won't just make you feel unpleasant in the moment, they'll kill you in the long run.
The dose makes the poison
Unfortunately a single rail car can carry in excess of 30,000 gallons of dosing, and a single train can have several millions of gallons all together.
Re: Health concerns grow in East Palestine, Ohio, after train derailment
#125Earlier quoted context omitted.
Also: if you live in a non-swing state, consider voting in the primary of whichever party is most likely to win the election, even if that isn't the party you'll likely vote for. AIUI although you can't vote in more than primary you can still vote for whomever you want in the regular election regardless of which primary you voted in. The idea being that in such states (mostly red or mostly blue), the primary effectiv…
I agree. I don't know if this is true in every state, but in some this requires you to update your voter registration.
Some states have open primaries.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_primaries_in_the_United_S...
Re: Health concerns grow in East Palestine, Ohio, after train derailment
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_United_States_railroad_la... > "The rise of precision scheduled railroading has resulted in resource and staffing cuts; to compensate railroad companies have enacted strict attendance policies for employees. These policies eliminate any free time which workers have, requiring them to be effectively on-call for weeks at a time. Workers have complained of increased levels of stress an…
> "The rise of precision scheduled railroading has resulted in resource and staffing cuts; to compensate railroad companies have enacted strict attendance policies for employees. These policies eliminate any free time which workers have, requiring them to be effectively on-call for weeks at a time. Workers have complained of increased levels of stress and fatigue."
My brother went to a recruiting drive last year for railroad engineer job openings (coincidentally along the Pittsburgh-Harrisburg corridor). He said they started the meeting by kicking out anyone who was even ten seconds late. The job description only got worse from there. I could see how the pay and benefits would be worth it for some small slice of the population... but you have zero outside life.
Re: Health concerns grow in East Palestine, Ohio, after train derailment
#127Earlier quoted context omitted.
We live in a country where everything important is owned and controlled by billionaires or hedge funds who also control the government via bribery. Events like this make me think that it's much, much crazier to trust the government to keep us safe.
That would be great if it were true, unfortunately railway accidents are merely a reality of transporting dangerous chemicals hundreds of times per day. If we want to blame the railroad union not getting any time off or sick leave, there are no secret cabals of the rich - that is purely the white house.
> If we want to blame the railroad union not getting any time off or sick leave, there are no secret cabals of the rich - that is purely the white house.
The cognitive dissonance required to write these two bits right next to one another... Some blame surely does land on the White House for the union busting. But there would have been no union busting without those cabals of the rich turning the screws to begin with.
This divide and ignore half the problem is at the very root of our political decay.
Re: Health concerns grow in East Palestine, Ohio, after train derailment
#128I see a lot of these responses starting with "The reason." I don't see many people talking about institutional bias. I don't see a lot of people talking about this disaster getting no coverage while the media is stuck on shooting down balloons. I don't see many people talking about the fact that if this was anywhere close to wealthy people that it would have been headline news. I don't see many talking about the abso…
> don't see a lot of people talking about this disaster getting no coverage
Oh my god this is the only thing people are talking about. Please don’t do this. Let’s talk about the actual disaster instead of spinning up another useless whirlpool of meta-debate.
Re: Health concerns grow in East Palestine, Ohio, after train derailment
#129Earlier quoted context omitted.
The cause was an overheated wheel bearing melting and dislodging the axle, causing a derailment. The overheating was detected, and ignored. The quote is, as I recall, "The next sensor will detect it if it's a problem." Could the electric brakes have helped? Not sure in this specific case. In other cases? Probably. Air brakes are remarkably cool technology (how the valves work still boggles me from time to time) but t…
There were more factors to this derailment than the ones you mention. In recent years train companies have forced longer trains than ever to be driven by a single worker, the sort of thing that would make it hard to notice a train car is on fire. They've also forced train car inspections, the sort of thing that might catch a faulty bearing, to be done faster than ever, in the push for endlessly increasing profits. Th…
Yes, these definitely helped contribute to the derailment (and every derailment that occurs these days).
But, IMO, ignoring the hot-axle warning they did get was unconscionable (and as I understand it, it wasn't the engineers who ignored it, it was dispatch).
Re: Health concerns grow in East Palestine, Ohio, after train derailment
#130I see a lot of these responses starting with "The reason." I don't see many people talking about institutional bias. I don't see a lot of people talking about this disaster getting no coverage while the media is stuck on shooting down balloons. I don't see many people talking about the fact that if this was anywhere close to wealthy people that it would have been headline news. I don't see many talking about the abso…
> I don't see a lot of people talking about this disaster getting no coverage while the media is stuck on shooting down balloons.
I’ve seen hundreds of comments and posts with this sentiment on Reddit, including some that made it to the top of r/all.
Usually they say something like “why aren’t major media outlets covering this?” while linking to CNN or CBS or some other major media outlet that is in fact covering the event.