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War and subsidies have turbocharged the green transition

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Re: War and subsidies have turbocharged the green transition

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Post by trasz3 »

redeeman wrote: post #71
some_random wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes actually, a Ukrainian victory will in fact stop the war. Furthermore, an ending to the invasion that results in Ukrainians being ethnically cleansed and Russia in a position to pursue more invasions is not a better outcome than war (specifically the one that Russia chose and continues to choose to pursue) for quite a few very obvious reasons.

okay.. but at this point ukraine has recieved more money/material than years worth of russian military budgets. Where is the victory? Also, what is it? is russia 100% incompetent, or is it a fiendish foe? We have had to hear for a year now about how russia is so totally inept that ukranian farmers are victorious against them using nothing both farming tractors, but at the same time the west must send ungodly amounts…

>Where is the victory?

Here: https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2022/02/attack-on-europe-docum.... Russia already lost about half of its entire available land forces.

Re: War and subsidies have turbocharged the green transition

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Post by chuckledog »

krageon wrote: post #70
landemva wrote: post #59

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I would have started with energy audit including blower door test and infrared pictures. Next I would have got busy sealing and insulating. New solar installs or heaters would then be considered.

If you seal properly you need mechanical ventilation. I'm not saying you're implying you don't, a lot of people around me forget such things and end up with very unhealthy living environments.

We remodeled to tight envelope + radiant heat but our architect failed to spec fresh air ventilation. We had to DIY it mid remodel and learned a lot in a hurry.

The one room that we didn’t get any fresh air flow to, now stinks. The others are fine.

In a nutshell: blow fresh air into bedrooms / closets. 10 CFM is enough (small cpu fan level of airflow). Exhaust with quiet bathroom fans on constantly at low CFM. In + out = flow. Rooms with no flow = stinky, musty, germ contamination, good for growing mushrooms, bad for people and pets

Re: War and subsidies have turbocharged the green transition

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Post by WeylandYutani »

cpursley wrote: post #134
talideon wrote: post #131

Just kind of a pity that some of the most productive farmland in the world now resembles the surface of Mars, along with hundreds of thousands dead and millions displaced.

If you wanna have your mind blown, start looking into who bought up a lot of that farmland (and agricultural enterprise) starting after the 2014 uh, government restructuring. Hint: it’s not the Ukrainians. And they were changing laws to allow more foreign takeover of Ukrainian agriculture by multinationals all the way up to the invasion.

Agriculture has been owned by global multinational corporations for decades. It's a free market.

You think the Dutch state owns farms? No it's banks. Ukraine opened itself up to foreign investment and small family run farms are swallowed up. Happened everywhere and now it's happening in Ukraine.

Re: War and subsidies have turbocharged the green transition

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Post by cosmic_gigachad »

yyyk wrote: post #151

The article's conclusion may be distasteful to some, but is in line with historical precedent. The 1973 Yom Kippur war and following oil embargo led to fuel economy standards, CFL research was started, search for alternate fuel sources and extraction method such as fracking... Many parallels to today, except "green" sources barely existed at the time.

War progresses many industries and humanity as a whole. “War! What is it good for?” by Ian Morrison is a good read.

Re: War and subsidies have turbocharged the green transition

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Post by cosmic_gigachad »

Zigurd wrote: post #47
magnuspaaske wrote: post #41

The article makes a lot of bold claims of the energy transition happening faster than otherwise and then mostly ignore all the context that kind of goes against the point. The most egregious example of this is saying coal has been in a secular decline for 8 years but somehow a 1.2% increase in coal use last year lead to a record – for most people that would suggest that coal use has plateaued and is not in fact decre…

The fact that US natural gas production is in decline even as fracking and LNG demand are in play, one would have to admit, is remarkable.

Define “in play”. The current administration campaigned on blocking all new exploratory leases, which they’ve done (and is now in a confusing legal battle). The current administration also blocked the Keystone pipeline.

So no new ventures, and no cheap transportation from our partners to our north. Seems like the North American industry is being starved.

Re: War and subsidies have turbocharged the green transition

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Post by WeylandYutani »

hackandthink wrote: post #164
MomoXenosaga wrote: post #51

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Suddenly so many people are actually pacifists, yeah I don't buy it either. And in their anti Western hatred they are willing to sacrifice a sovereign state to a Russian invasion. A question I pose to these people- after Ukraine what other land is Putin allowed to grab?

I do not support any party in this war, though I'm not really pacifist. It's not worth dying for NATO membership or an ukrainian Crimea. And nobody should be forced to fight in any war. It is about cost/benefit. If Ukraine would tell: We are looking for a compromise (no NATO membership, Crimea belongs to Russia, ...), I could change my mind and support them. If Russia would invade another country there's a new cost/b…

I'm not advocating NATO boots on the ground. It is the Ukrainians that are dying in the trenches. Zelensky has been quite clear: just give us the tools we'll do the fighting.

Re: War and subsidies have turbocharged the green transition

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Post by hackandthink »

WeylandYutani wrote: post #196
hackandthink wrote: post #164

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I do not support any party in this war, though I'm not really pacifist. It's not worth dying for NATO membership or an ukrainian Crimea. And nobody should be forced to fight in any war. It is about cost/benefit. If Ukraine would tell: We are looking for a compromise (no NATO membership, Crimea belongs to Russia, ...), I could change my mind and support them. If Russia would invade another country there's a new cost/b…

I'm not advocating NATO boots on the ground. It is the Ukrainians that are dying in the trenches. Zelensky has been quite clear: just give us the tools we'll do the fighting.

It is so depressing. There is disgust of war and there is disgust of injustice, everybody is rationalizing.

Re: War and subsidies have turbocharged the green transition

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Post by pfdietz »

cosmic_gigachad wrote: post #195
Zigurd wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The fact that US natural gas production is in decline even as fracking and LNG demand are in play, one would have to admit, is remarkable.

Define “in play”. The current administration campaigned on blocking all new exploratory leases, which they’ve done (and is now in a confusing legal battle). The current administration also blocked the Keystone pipeline. So no new ventures, and no cheap transportation from our partners to our north. Seems like the North American industry is being starved.

You seem to be deliberately confusing natural gas with petroleum.

Re: War and subsidies have turbocharged the green transition

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Post by pfdietz »

chuckledog wrote: post #192
krageon wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you seal properly you need mechanical ventilation. I'm not saying you're implying you don't, a lot of people around me forget such things and end up with very unhealthy living environments.

We remodeled to tight envelope + radiant heat but our architect failed to spec fresh air ventilation. We had to DIY it mid remodel and learned a lot in a hurry. The one room that we didn’t get any fresh air flow to, now stinks. The others are fine. In a nutshell: blow fresh air into bedrooms / closets. 10 CFM is enough (small cpu fan level of airflow). Exhaust with quiet bathroom fans on constantly at low CFM. In + o…

Did you use an ERV?

Re: War and subsidies have turbocharged the green transition

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Post by bootsmann »

user3939382 wrote: post #186
glogla wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Can you elaborate on why the Minsk agreement had to be enacted in the first place, i.e. what conflict the ceasefire was meant to cease? And how that conflict started? And who fought in that conflict? I'd really like to know.
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