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BBC offices in India raided by tax officials amid Modi documentary fallout

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Re: BBC offices in India raided by tax officials amid Modi documentary fallout

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Post by mikehotel »

paganel wrote: post #115
ignoramous wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You'd be surprised by just how many Modi (and right-wing) supporters exist among influential Indians in the Silicon Valley. They're not even subtle about it on Twitter.

I was actually wondering about that yesterday. It seems like the West, and the US more specifically, isn't capable anymore of physically reproducing/replacing its technocratic elites, which in this day and age mostly means its tech elites. Which made me wonder what would happen in case of a direct US vs China war when in some companies 20% to 30% to even 50% of the engineers have some close family connections on the…

Many Indians in America or Americans of Indian descent disagree with the rise of fascism in India. Of course many also fall into the default nationalistic mode and become defensive.

Actions to take against a ruling party that has widespread support from the police, legislature, judiciary, and media are limited.

In India, about 15% of Indians are Christians, Muslims, or other non Hindus. And among Hindus, about 40% are Dalits. The majority of Indians in India are threatened by this rise in fascist actions and rhetoric.

And yet, even against all odds, a few people in India stand up for justice. The silence or inaction of the majority should not be criticized too harshly since it is not easy to put everything on the line. But those that do deserve all of humanity’s appreciation.

Under Modi, India’s press is not as free anymore - April 2, 2020 - Vindu Goel and Jeffrey Gettleman https://archive.ph/zPhMH

Jailed Indian journalist gets bail almost two years after arrest - September 10, 2022 - Shaikh Azizur Rahman https://archive.ph/5sxUA

Rana Ayyub, journalist and Modi critic, barred from leaving India - March 30, 2022 - Aakash Hassan https://archive.ph/Ibu7S

Re: BBC offices in India raided by tax officials amid Modi documentary fallout

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Post by LinuxBender »

capableweb wrote: post #51
azalemeth wrote: post #13

Honestly, a lot of the documentary is a mixture of interviews and CCTV camera footage with a fairly even handed narrative on the top – it, by itself, isn't that shocking and certainly isn't presented in a particularly sensationalist way. I'm amazed by the reaction it has generated. Yes, there's some post-colonial history there and it doesn't look great that it's the BBC that has made it, as opposed to, say, a US or c…

> If you're interested, you can get it (legally) in the UK here And if you happen to be belong to the rest of the ~99.13% world population, you can grab it here: Episode 1 - magnet:?xt=urn:btih:3C378A82CF67A1107523CA6C647077403A1EF74D&dn=India+The+Modi+Question+S01E01+1080p+HDTV+H264-DARKFLiX&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.coppersurfer.tk%3A6969%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.openbittorrent.com%3A6969%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A…

The two parts appear to be on Rumble [1][2] It seems that yt-dlp [3] works with Rumble so you don't even have to visit the site.

[1] - https://rumble.com/v26y14s-india-the-modi-question-part-1-by... [829.13MiB via yt-dlp]

[2] - https://rumble.com/v271ob0-india-the-modi-question-part-2-by... [341.35MiB via yt-dlp]

[3] - https://github.com/yt-dlp/yt-dlp.git

Re: BBC offices in India raided by tax officials amid Modi documentary fallout

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Post by briandear »

jack_riminton wrote: post #116
zo1 wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Interesting choices. How about we talk about other countries that get away with various bits of blatant authoritarianism, sexism and racism each with their own unique take: Australia, Saudi Arabia, South Africa, Germany, etc.

[flagged]

No place for this nonsense on HN.

Re: BBC offices in India raided by tax officials amid Modi documentary fallout

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Post by pessimizer »

miroljub wrote: post #95
mihaaly wrote: post #81

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Apparently it struck too close to home. Unleashing tax officials on an organization painting a negative picture (well, not, Modi and accoplice paint it, the BBC only presents it) is a failed attempt of masquerading an authoritarian government overstepping their limits of governance. If they were honest and not coward they would simply tell: 'Shouldn't uncover our dirty laundry, get out of here or will get hurt!' They…

> Unleashing tax officials on an organization painting a negative picture (well, not, Modi i and accoplice paint it, the BBC only presents it) is a failed attempt of masquerading an authoritarian government overstepping their limits of governance. Isn't that what every government do? Remember that Al Capone went to jail because of tax issues, the government couldn't prove anything he was accused to. If you look at Ge…

> My point is just that this is not unique to India, and one should not look down at India and call out on it for doing what everyone else is doing.

Nobody is claiming that India's corruption is unique or unprecedented, just that it is happening. Germany and the US have done a lot worse than selective prosecution, and it would be better if India did not do those other, worse things.

"It's all right because the US and Germany did it" gives you slavery and death camps.

Re: BBC offices in India raided by tax officials amid Modi documentary fallout

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Post by briandear »

propogandist wrote: post #88
owl_vision wrote: post #18

The Two India: The Modi Question https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p0dkb144

This needs to be uploaded on Youtube, Facebook and other mediums where the govt will have to work harder to have it removed.

Lol. YouTube and Facebook conspire with governments all the time.

Re: BBC offices in India raided by tax officials amid Modi documentary fallout

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Post by monetus »

dsfyu404ed wrote: post #148
monetus wrote: post #143

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Please dont troll with generalizations.

A little to close to home, eh? Twisting the law so you can jail a known criminal for a term that is unreasonable for the charges you can actually convict him on is surely a far cry from jailing political opponents over BS but it is on the same spectrum of odious government behavior and the fact of the matter is that HN types tend to draw the "here is where I stop looking the other way" line on that spectrum a lot clo…

How does this help the point you are trying to make?

> doesn't stop comfortably wealthy westerners who've never been harassed by any government or quasi-government institutions

It comes across like a prejudiced assumption, and just hurts it. Flames others into an incendiary mess. Why are you so mad, who is it towards? Westerners? Dungeons and dragons of all things has been dealing with these ethics surrounding laws for years. Games. Your anger is misdirected at "hn types" because that is just a generalization.

Regardless, your principle stands. The ends justifying the means as a principle is despised for good reasons even if some laud it as well.

Re: BBC offices in India raided by tax officials amid Modi documentary fallout

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Post by iafiaf »

There is a sampling bias at play right here in HN with the Modi-bashing comments. Indians, and India, is doing great overall. Modi's leadership has played a big role in this. Indians are (generally) emotionally people, and by no means is it an authoritarian state. In fact, we need wise leaders with vision to manage this population.
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