Tesla Workers Launch Union Campaign in New York
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Tesla Workers Launch Union Campaign in New York
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Re: Tesla Workers Launch Union Campaign in New York
#2As someone who has only worked in "right to work" states, it always strikes me as absurd that people seek "job security" through a 3rd party agency rather than by individual performance and developing personal relationships.
Honestly a big part of why I quit my last job was too many unproductive/unreliable coworkers.
Am I just Stockholm Syndromed?
Re: Tesla Workers Launch Union Campaign in New York
#3As someone who has only worked in "right to work" states, it always strikes me as absurd that people seek "job security" through a 3rd party agency rather than by individual performance and developing personal relationships. Honestly a big part of why I quit my last job was too many unproductive/unreliable coworkers. Am I just Stockholm Syndromed?
imo very few industries need unions, and most devolve post union integration. it seems like there's no one size fits all union model and about a million ways to turn it into a kludgy fiefdom.
edit: downvote with your words you nerds
Re: Tesla Workers Launch Union Campaign in New York
#4As someone who has only worked in "right to work" states, it always strikes me as absurd that people seek "job security" through a 3rd party agency rather than by individual performance and developing personal relationships. Honestly a big part of why I quit my last job was too many unproductive/unreliable coworkers. Am I just Stockholm Syndromed?
As someone who has never needed "the police" to provide physical security, it always strikes me as absurd that people seek to form governments to "provide security" rather than through individual enforcement of the law through firearm ownership.
Re: Tesla Workers Launch Union Campaign in New York
#5As someone who has only worked in "right to work" states, it always strikes me as absurd that people seek "job security" through a 3rd party agency rather than by individual performance and developing personal relationships. Honestly a big part of why I quit my last job was too many unproductive/unreliable coworkers. Am I just Stockholm Syndromed?
As someone who has never needed "the police" to provide physical security, it always strikes me as absurd that people seek to form governments to "provide security" rather than through individual enforcement of the law through firearm ownership.
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Re: Tesla Workers Launch Union Campaign in New York
#6As someone who has only worked in "right to work" states, it always strikes me as absurd that people seek "job security" through a 3rd party agency rather than by individual performance and developing personal relationships. Honestly a big part of why I quit my last job was too many unproductive/unreliable coworkers. Am I just Stockholm Syndromed?
The idea that "invidivual performance and personal relationships" provides job security is a laughable idea in almost any industry.
The wave of tech layoffs should've made that clear.
The USA's primal hatred of unions will always blow my mind. There's power in a union my friend.
Re: Tesla Workers Launch Union Campaign in New York
#7As someone who has only worked in "right to work" states, it always strikes me as absurd that people seek "job security" through a 3rd party agency rather than by individual performance and developing personal relationships. Honestly a big part of why I quit my last job was too many unproductive/unreliable coworkers. Am I just Stockholm Syndromed?
As someone who has never needed "the police" to provide physical security, it always strikes me as absurd that people seek to form governments to "provide security" rather than through individual enforcement of the law through firearm ownership.
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Re: Tesla Workers Launch Union Campaign in New York
#8As someone who has only worked in "right to work" states, it always strikes me as absurd that people seek "job security" through a 3rd party agency rather than by individual performance and developing personal relationships. Honestly a big part of why I quit my last job was too many unproductive/unreliable coworkers. Am I just Stockholm Syndromed?
The idea that "invidivual performance and personal relationships" provides job security is a laughable idea in almost any industry. The wave of tech layoffs should've made that clear. The USA's primal hatred of unions will always blow my mind. There's power in a union my friend.
You're talking about specific job security. He's talking about general job security (or at least seems to be based on wording).
A union protects your specific job for a specific employer (or set of employers or subset of industry). Networks and reputation protect your ability to get paid for the thing you do in general. The degree to which either approach is successful is going to depend on one's industry and position/skill-set therein.
Edit: This shouldn't need to be said but the above should not be construed as an endorsement of either approach.
Re: Tesla Workers Launch Union Campaign in New York
#9As someone who has only worked in "right to work" states, it always strikes me as absurd that people seek "job security" through a 3rd party agency rather than by individual performance and developing personal relationships. Honestly a big part of why I quit my last job was too many unproductive/unreliable coworkers. Am I just Stockholm Syndromed?
You just described collective bargaining as if it were like an individual hiring a salary negotiator. I suppose we can debate whether some jobs are better off with or without unionization but it doesn't sound like a genuine argument when you describe it that way.
Sadly I think we can honestly say that the unproductive coworkers exist in many different professions and a significant drawback of unions is that they can thrive there.
Re: Tesla Workers Launch Union Campaign in New York
#10As someone who has only worked in "right to work" states, it always strikes me as absurd that people seek "job security" through a 3rd party agency rather than by individual performance and developing personal relationships. Honestly a big part of why I quit my last job was too many unproductive/unreliable coworkers. Am I just Stockholm Syndromed?
The idea that "invidivual performance and personal relationships" provides job security is a laughable idea in almost any industry. The wave of tech layoffs should've made that clear. The USA's primal hatred of unions will always blow my mind. There's power in a union my friend.
I'm not trying to say everyone that got let go is a low performer or has poor personal skills. I've seen plenty of good employees fired for bad or no reason.
I guess what I'm trying to say, is that even working with a guillotine above my head feels preferable to having to pick up the slack of people coasting and not meeting their commitments.