War and subsidies have turbocharged the green transition
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Re: War and subsidies have turbocharged the green transition
#102In almost the entire EU and especially here in the UK, governments have stepped in to spend huge amounts subsidising energy (including gas), SPECIFICALLY AND EXPRESSLY to that people don't use any less. As someone with decent insulation and solar panels etc, this was exactly the time those investments should have paid off and for other people to be left behind because they refused to take basic measures. Instead they…
No.
The government stepped in because poor people (and many not so poor) could not afford to heat their homes over winter.
It is (was) an emergency measure. The transition to green energy is well under way in the UK, regardless of temporary subsidies.
Re: War and subsidies have turbocharged the green transition
#103Earlier quoted context omitted.
Assuming one believes your argument, a more charitable conclusion is that some people may be misguided, and a reexamination of their stance may be warranted. Calling people idiots isn’t going to change people’s minds, and people hold bad opinions about things all the time for reasons that aren’t as simplistic as “they’re an idiot”.
Idiot is me being charitable. People who believe that speech should be limited specifically because that speech may engender beliefs in others that they disagree with are idiots at best, and malicious authoritarians at worst. This isn't free speech absolutism, I'm not advocating for unrestricted misinformation, propaganda, or calls to violence. I'm stating that people who believe that "wrongthink" is not permissible…
Re: War and subsidies have turbocharged the green transition
#104Earlier quoted context omitted.
>Why are IEA forecasts spurious? What do they have to do with the war? Renewable energy was projected to grow anyway in spite of the war because of the declining costs of renewables. However, since they are capital intense and war made capital expensive... that'll be a drag on investment, won't it? >Would the article be better if it just commented on the acceleration of investment in renewables, leaving unsaid the ca…
> Renewable energy was projected to grow anyway in spite of the war because of the declining costs of renewables And now it's growing faster. Because fossil fuel prices went up. That's the article's thesis.
Re: War and subsidies have turbocharged the green transition
#105Earlier quoted context omitted.
>Why are IEA forecasts spurious? What do they have to do with the war? Renewable energy was projected to grow anyway in spite of the war because of the declining costs of renewables. However, since they are capital intense and war made capital expensive... that'll be a drag on investment, won't it? >Would the article be better if it just commented on the acceleration of investment in renewables, leaving unsaid the ca…
> It would be better if they were honest about the cause. Which is what? What should they say about it?
Re: War and subsidies have turbocharged the green transition
#106Earlier quoted context omitted.
My opinion is that The Economist is looking for any angle to support the fleecing of the American people to the tune of $130B which we just handed over to the arms industry. The war was crafted by this industry through its puppeteering of the US government for expressly this purpose. The Economist might as well write an article about the long-term positive impact on the planet of humans being obliterated by the nucle…
Which again is an opinion on the source and does not mention the content in any way. I must conclude that you're not interested in an object level discussion about the topic at hand.
In another comment I did try to engage with the content and it got buried harder than this one shrug
Re: War and subsidies have turbocharged the green transition
#107Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes actually, a Ukrainian victory will in fact stop the war. Furthermore, an ending to the invasion that results in Ukrainians being ethnically cleansed and Russia in a position to pursue more invasions is not a better outcome than war (specifically the one that Russia chose and continues to choose to pursue) for quite a few very obvious reasons.
okay.. but at this point ukraine has recieved more money/material than years worth of russian military budgets. Where is the victory? Also, what is it? is russia 100% incompetent, or is it a fiendish foe? We have had to hear for a year now about how russia is so totally inept that ukranian farmers are victorious against them using nothing both farming tractors, but at the same time the west must send ungodly amounts…
The west sending weapons reduces the amount of Ukrainians who are killed by Russians or under Russian occupation.
This is unambiguously a good thing.
Re: War and subsidies have turbocharged the green transition
#108In almost the entire EU and especially here in the UK, governments have stepped in to spend huge amounts subsidising energy (including gas), SPECIFICALLY AND EXPRESSLY to that people don't use any less. As someone with decent insulation and solar panels etc, this was exactly the time those investments should have paid off and for other people to be left behind because they refused to take basic measures. Instead they…
Re: War and subsidies have turbocharged the green transition
#109Just one datapoint: this war has motivated me to make at least this house as independent of external energy sources as possible within the limits of physics and my budget. Gas prices have gone up so far and so fast that freestanding houses are listed for sale all over the place here. I've installed a relatively large amount of solar (nominally a bit over 10 KW) and I'm using that to offset the gas bill as long as we…
I’ve taken to re-terming oil as “conflict fuel” myself. It literally empowers the Wests enemies against the West. Don’t burn fuel, don’t fuel conflict. There’s also the resource curse of being an oil baron nation.
And to anybody shaming the West-it has a good history of live and let live with the option to opt-in by being various amounts of agreeable to it. Stephen Kotkin makes this argument well so I’ll point people towards him instead of rehashing it here.
Re: War and subsidies have turbocharged the green transition
#110Earlier quoted context omitted.
Assuming one believes your argument, a more charitable conclusion is that some people may be misguided, and a reexamination of their stance may be warranted. Calling people idiots isn’t going to change people’s minds, and people hold bad opinions about things all the time for reasons that aren’t as simplistic as “they’re an idiot”.
There's an entire subsection of politics that's appeared, made entirely from the worst possible misreadings of sensible boring policy wonkery. The most recent example is people going bananas about "15-minute cities", as if being able to walk to the shops is some sort of communist plot.