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US aircraft shoots down new airborne object over Canada

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Post by hollerith »

ss108 wrote: post #516
SQueeeeeL wrote: post #458

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> If you think of it more in terms of war, you'd never draw such an equivalence: "Well, we've shot down their planes so it's fine that they shoot down ours." People make these equivalencies constantly . Fortunately I don't think either side has been dumb enough to kill an soldier from the other yet, but once we get that pot cooking, WWIII here we come!

I'm a China hawk, but I hope it doesn't come to that. Would like to point out something relevant: China and India kill each others soldiers fairly frequently. I find it rather remarkable their issues haven't escalated.

They kill each others soldiers, yes, but they are always small engagements because it is very difficult to transport a large formation of Chinese soldiers to Indian territory (specifically, any territory India cares about) or vice versa because the mountains are such formidable barriers.

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Post by dang »

anon7725 wrote: post #419
10xDev wrote: post #370

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These articles are making me realise just how much of the HN demographic is Chinese. Either that or simply naive when it comes to international affairs.

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Post by ajsnigrutin »

ALittleLight wrote: post #33
ajsnigrutin wrote: post #4

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I was joking in the other thread, that soon people will be buying weather baloons and setting them off "for the lulz" (youtube videos, tiktok, or whatever) :)

I would watch a TikTok of "F22 shoots down my balloon."

https://streamable.com/etkpd0

we're not far :D

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Post by toomuchtodo »

toomuchtodo wrote: post #376
37 wrote: post #313

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Which recent activities? House hearings on weaponization? Hersh's article on Nord Stream? Something else?

China has been providing military support to Russia. With a certain lens, you can see the proxy war growing from Russia and Ukraine to Russia-China and Ukraine-NATO. https://www.forbes.com/sites/brianbushard/2023/02/04/china-h... https://www.ft.com/content/3146a413-9aba-4fd4-86a7-671bce0e6...

https://www.scmp.com/news/world/russia-central-asia/article/... (Ukraine’s Zelensky to China: there would be a ‘world war’ if you ally with Russia)

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Post by graderjs »

cookiengineer wrote: post #301
graderjs wrote: post #206

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HN vibe when ET life is finally acknowledged by government: “ is it just me or does this sound unremarkable? I mean think about it the universe is so big. We’ve always welcomed open minded scientific inquiry on this forum, I don’t think any of us ever seriously doubted we’d eventually find ET life. Why is this on front page? Let’s get back to bickering over the latest shiny tech fad.” Hehe

Just because you found a branch of wood in front of you doesn't imply that you must be living in the forest. Just because we found metallic balls doesn't mean it must be alien. It's far more likely an SCO state that's spying on the US. Additionally, the last fictious alien event series around Roswell turned out to be the A12 prototype (aka SR-71 Blackbird) that was being tested for its radar stealth capabilities. Yet…

The only tinfoil hats are you guys, these days. Tin foil on your head keeps the new info from getting in. So you can protect the existing "everything is bland and normal" cognitive bias. (I'm not attacking, it's not you-personal---it's a whole phenomena of people who wanna believe the boring shit, and never anything else).

Me looking at your first 3 lines:

...Uhuh...

...Good...

...WTF!?! Roswell was A12?!

Come on man, you can't believe that hype. Even the "tinfoil hat space weather balloon" bs cover story, has a guy holding a telegraph memo. You can zoom in on that memo and clearly make out a communique that details the coverup.

Also, read Corso's Day After Roswell (available in 1 click probably). It details an extensive chronology for the events of the crash, initial unsanctioned info release, and subsequent coverup and reverse engineering efforts.

It's just nuts to wave it away with a magical swoosh of your hands and say, "It was A12, nuff said." Some disinfo agent probably fed that story to the press, just like with the balloon. Please, please, please read more before you speak more about this. Actually read it for yourself, not just the "internet crib" notes and then make up your mind to confirm your existing bias because some 12-year-old commenter said "Contains many logical fallacies" on Goodreads or whatever. I don't know if there's a goodreads, don't go lookin' for it--just read more please!!! :P :) xx ;p

I'm not even saying these latest things are legit (probably just disinfo distraction)--but there's so many others--so, you know, look into it!

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Post by graderjs »

roenxi wrote: post #271
graderjs wrote: post #206

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HN vibe when ET life is finally acknowledged by government: “ is it just me or does this sound unremarkable? I mean think about it the universe is so big. We’ve always welcomed open minded scientific inquiry on this forum, I don’t think any of us ever seriously doubted we’d eventually find ET life. Why is this on front page? Let’s get back to bickering over the latest shiny tech fad.” Hehe

1. It is lowest of the low rhetoric to argue from what a hypothetical exaggerated caricature in a hypothetical situation would say. If you want to upset people then keep doing it, but I advise punching above the belt. 2. We've got a bunch of balloons in the air. Balloons are a technology dating back to before they started keeping records [0]. If it turns out people aren't registering every single balloon flight with…

That's like you saying you want to be above everyone else and be the "highest of the high", and while trying to upset people with this (or obliviously thinking you "won't" because it must be your "natural place above everyone" and they'll just accept and worship you for it, haha...how ridiculous!), you try to chastise other's for wanting to upset people. This is the same pathology where someone who needs to dominate, but doesn't know how to achieve, has to invent and fabricate "wrongs" everywhere so they can "legitimize" going after people and trying abusing them. Hahah, the very punching above the belt that you advise, is something you would never do, because you'd lose. So you have to "skew the field" and do the very same "hypothetical exaggerated caricature" (really...not just a caricature? an exaggerated caricatured? are you sure?) that you try to blame someone else doing, is what you do!!! Hahaha. Ridiculous.

Anyway your point is invalid. The situation I described is exactly the HN vibe you see. Hypocritical, lacking in self awareness, desperate to be seen as smart...well, hey...whaddayouknow...exactly like what you've displayed here. Hmmm, not a caricature at all (tho I admit it was satirical) and also not intended at everyone! Totes makes sense now that the person most wounded by that satire and thus prompted to reply would be the person most likely to demonstrate the very same! Thank you for revealing yourself! :) ;P xx ;p

All your other points are valid but uninteresting, they don't disprove anything. But yeah...this whole thing seems like a distraction for the current tumult. There's 1000s of other cases if you're interested in something real...but you're probably not, but second I'm guessing maybe you are into this (maybe you're just too scared to admit it in public?)...anyway whatevs...this thing's probably a distraction. Well except for your comments, they just revealed you. But, yeah, the balloon thing: probably a distraction.

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