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Is smartphone/digital screen attributable to some degree to teenager's late-night habits, and therefore a need for later school times?
Research into teenagers' shifted body clocks has been going on since well before smartphones and even laptops, if I recall.
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The scientific consensus is that children need more sleep than theyre getting, and that waking up later is healthier. I assume this problem is the same in most parts of the world.
Why not going to sleep earlier?
Sure, it is possible to have them go to bed earlier, but you're fighting biology
One big reason this shift isn't happening is that it creates coordination problems: for many families, everyone leaves for school at the same time, so if you move grade 9 forward an hour, you have to do the same with grade 4 to get any benefit; the 9th grader is taking the 4th grader to school. That problem stopped this shift dead recently where I live.
One big reason this shift isn't happening is that it creates coordination problems: for many families, everyone leaves for school at the same time, so if you move grade 9 forward an hour, you have to do the same with grade 4 to get any benefit; the 9th grader is taking the 4th grader to school. That problem stopped this shift dead recently where I live.
> everyone leaves for school at the same time, so if you move grade 9 forward an hour, you have to do the same with grade 4 to get any benefit; the 9th grader is taking the 4th grader to school. That problem stopped this shift dead recently where I live.
Where?! Around here they don't have enough busses for everyone to go at once. Young kids start late (which sucks, because they've already burnt at least one of their best and most-alert hours of the day by then) and older kids start early (which also sucks, of course). They could flip it—after all, the older kids are the ones best-equipped to get themselves to school after the parents leave for work—but see again the sports-parents' (and, within the schools, coaches and athletic directors') objections.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
The scientific consensus is that children need more sleep than theyre getting, and that waking up later is healthier. I assume this problem is the same in most parts of the world.
Can solve that by going to bed earlier too, but I doubt my teenager self would have listened to that.
Is smartphone/digital screen attributable to some degree to teenager's late-night habits, and therefore a need for later school times?
Research into teenagers' shifted body clocks has been going on since well before smartphones and even laptops, if I recall.
Research has indicated that extensive television viewing tends to be associated with sleep problems among children, adolescents, and adults.1-6 However, few studies of risk for sleep problems have assessed television viewing.1 Only 2 studies have investigated the sequencing of the association between television viewing and the development of sleep problems during childhood or early adolescence.2,5 The findings of both studies suggested that television viewing was associated with increased risk for sleep problems during the next 9 to 12 months. However, no prospective longitudinal study has investigated the long-term association of television viewing with the development of sleep problems from early adolescence through early adulthood. Thus, little is known about the nature and direction of the association between television viewing and sleep problems during adolescence and early adulthood.
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapediatrics/fullarticle/...
One big reason this shift isn't happening is that it creates coordination problems: for many families, everyone leaves for school at the same time, so if you move grade 9 forward an hour, you have to do the same with grade 4 to get any benefit; the 9th grader is taking the 4th grader to school. That problem stopped this shift dead recently where I live.
But what if the 4th grader doesn't have a 9th grader sibling? Like what do the family do when the 9th grader was a 4th grader? Do parents literally drive them every day to school? Isn't there some kind of school bus system that transports kids from and to their school?
One big reason this shift isn't happening is that it creates coordination problems: for many families, everyone leaves for school at the same time, so if you move grade 9 forward an hour, you have to do the same with grade 4 to get any benefit; the 9th grader is taking the 4th grader to school. That problem stopped this shift dead recently where I live.
But: smart and healthy children demand wages as adults that cut into shareholder profits…
There are no lobbying groups on behalf of 9am school start times. You have to break the national teachers unions to get this kind of change, which parents appear the right amount of pissed off to do at this point.
This post on the front page was SO timely for us! My son (16) was feeling very sleepy and tired the past week. On Friday he took a brief nap at 5pm, but woke up next morning, after 15 hours. This morning when I went to wake him up at 6am he just couldn’t make it so I let him stay at home. This never happened before.
It's a low cost high return kind of thing. If I'd had early diagnosis, I wouldn't have been fired due to getting jobs that really, really wanted my butt in a chair at exactly 9am. (https://twitter.com/theshawwn/status/1392213804684038150)
That said, the rate of narcolepsy is extremely small, so there's probably nothing to worry about. But hey, it happened to me, so maybe worry a teensy tiny bit.