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Let Teenagers Sleep

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Re: Let Teenagers Sleep

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I've gotta ask: is this really such a big problem in other countries? If not, are they starting school later? How are the successful ones dealing with it if not that way?

The scientific consensus is that children need more sleep than theyre getting, and that waking up later is healthier. I assume this problem is the same in most parts of the world.

Why not going to sleep earlier?

Re: Let Teenagers Sleep

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When I went to school I had to be there at 7:20 which meant leaving home at 7:00. It sucked but it also meant I had most afternoons free to play with friends. When looking how schools today for various reasons swallow whole days I wonder whether I did not grow up in a golden age.

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Is smartphone/digital screen attributable to some degree to teenager's late-night habits, and therefore a need for later school times?

Research into teenagers' shifted body clocks has been going on since well before smartphones and even laptops, if I recall.

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This post on the front page was SO timely for us! My son (16) was feeling very sleepy and tired the past week. On Friday he took a brief nap at 5pm, but woke up next morning, after 15 hours.

This morning when I went to wake him up at 6am he just couldn’t make it so I let him stay at home. This never happened before.

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Is smartphone/digital screen attributable to some degree to teenager's late-night habits, and therefore a need for later school times?

Anecdotal, but as a pre-smartphone teenager I was a night owl which has gradually vanished despite the introduction of smartphones, so I think there's more at play

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As a teenager I was diagnosed with "ADD". Very intelligent, but unable to focus or complete assignments.

My life habits were carb heavy unhealthy food (from the cafeteria), soda, lack of sleep due to long school commute, not much exercise

As an adult, I eat no carbs, all meat and vegetables, I work from home and sleep in as far as I need every night. My thinking is laser sharp.

They tried to medicate me with all sorts of anti depression drugs and amphetamines. Turns out I was just very unhealthy, from a basic lifestyle perspective. And the school was pushing that lifestyle. My guidance counseler suggested I dont attend college, just a community college (despite the fact that I got admitted to a decent state school), or maybe go into the "trades".

These large scale school systems treat students like cattle, with zero regard for the long term effects. Many mental health concerns would disappear if people were actually healthy in the most basic sense.

Re: Let Teenagers Sleep

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One big reason this shift isn't happening is that it creates coordination problems: for many families, everyone leaves for school at the same time, so if you move grade 9 forward an hour, you have to do the same with grade 4 to get any benefit; the 9th grader is taking the 4th grader to school. That problem stopped this shift dead recently where I live.

This is why we have school busses. Why are children being tasked with transporting other children to school?

Re: Let Teenagers Sleep

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The scientific consensus is that children need more sleep than theyre getting, and that waking up later is healthier. I assume this problem is the same in most parts of the world.

Why not going to sleep earlier?

in the article: „And around puberty, their circadian clocks shift by a couple of hours, meaning they get tired later at night than before and wake up later in the morning than they used to. This shift reverses at adulthood.“ I agree with you somewhat that there is some personal responsibility required here, but I disagree that the answer here is so simple as going to sleep earlier.

Re: Let Teenagers Sleep

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Maybe just schedule the not-intellectually-heavy stuff earlier in the day, if we can't screw up the parents' schedules with a later start time.

For example, start school with a study hall (that you can miss if you're so able e.g. if you can drive yourself to school), and let the kids nap. Honestly that would have been a game changer for me, as I never did my homework until the last second.

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