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Internet blackout against U.S. law fails to enlist big sites

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Re: Internet blackout against U.S. law fails to enlist big sites

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This "stunt" has been solely designed to raise awareness and mobilize support. It doesn't take Google or Facebook blacking out their site to accomplish this - simply running a text link or a banner on their sites would go a long way towards helping a huge audience understand the heinous demands of the IP Lobby. By that same stroke, the more dramatic blackouts will also raise a lot of awareness. Despite the differing…

Reuters is part of the establishment, and is acting the part, so no surprise there. The truth is that opposition to this bill is multi-layered: the masses of Wikipedia and Reddit walk the networked streets shouting with their megaphones, while Google and Facebook quietly cut checks to people in suit who know how to talk to congressmen. This is why Big Media actors, like Murdoch and Reuters, are so angry about it all:…

Thinking out loud, I wonder how effective the tech counter-lobby can be in a situation like this. Google and Facebook can cut all the checks they want, but if the congress critters have made up their mind about this bill, it would take a huge lobby to make even small differences. I mean it can't hurt - every little bit helps, but it would be super-interesting to know which tactics were most effective compared to everything that's been done to defeat these proposals.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Reuters is part of the establishment, and is acting the part, so no surprise there. The truth is that opposition to this bill is multi-layered: the masses of Wikipedia and Reddit walk the networked streets shouting with their megaphones, while Google and Facebook quietly cut checks to people in suit who know how to talk to congressmen. This is why Big Media actors, like Murdoch and Reuters, are so angry about it all:…

Thinking out loud, I wonder how effective the tech counter-lobby can be in a situation like this. Google and Facebook can cut all the checks they want, but if the congress critters have made up their mind about this bill, it would take a huge lobby to make even small differences. I mean it can't hurt - every little bit helps, but it would be super-interesting to know which tactics were most effective compared to ever…

To me this is one of the rare cases where technology really is the answer (or rather: where technology dictates the answer).

SOPA-proponents can pass any bills they want, nothing can push the cat back into the bag.

Filesharing is easy now. People like it. The tech is out there and can't be blocked (see magnet links). Even if the laws pass; for every file-sharing "terrorist" they put in jail there are 10 more. And they're losing mindshare with every action they take. Bills like SOPA are merely delaying the inevitable, they can't turn back time.

Of course that doesn't mean we shouldn't front them, as we are.

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> "This publicity stunt does a disservice to its users by promoting fear instead of facts," said Lamar Smith, chairman of the House Judiciary Committee and a sponsor of SOPA. "Perhaps during the blackout, Internet users can look elsewhere for an accurate definition of online piracy." I'm sure the MPAA's Web site will be online!

Or just use Encarta 1996 on CD-ROM, as I'm sure Mr. Smith does. How much could the world have possibly changed?

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Blacking out your own site to protest a law is as silly as cutting off your ear to woo a lover. I like Google's approach.

If that law threatens your ability to do business, then it could be seen as worthwhile. As Ohanian has said, if SOPA passes, it will likely be the end of Reddit.

NOT being willing to lose a day's revenue to something along those lines illustrates, to me, a lack of forethought.

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So Wikipedia and Reddit aren't big?

Reddit is big, but it's not very well known compared to the likes of Wikipedia or Google.

It's probably in the top 100 websites with ~1-2 billion page views a month. Having said that I don't think most journalists look past the top 10 when they are look for "major" players in large part because the leaders are simply so dominate. Facebook clocks in at something like 1 trillion page views a month. (Note: that would take 500 million active users * 30 days * 66 page views a day which seems ridiculously excessive, until you consider how addicted some people are to that site.)

(1b) http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2011/02/reddit-billion/ (2b) http://articles.businessinsider.com/2012-01-05/tech/30592220...

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