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United States tells citizens: Leave Russia immediately

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Re: United States tells citizens: Leave Russia immediately

#131
This has been the case since even before the invasion of Ukraine:

https://ru.usembassy.gov/security-alert-update-to-travel-adv...

The world, and in particular the US population, seems to be very much in panic mode with obvious signs of hypervigilance for at least the last few weeks. Everyone needs to take a deep breath.

Re: United States tells citizens: Leave Russia immediately

#132
post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I saw a video recently where a column of Russian tanks was advancing along a road when the lead vehicle was hit by artillery. The others proceeded to ... just stop and wait until they were also hit. Now I'm no expert in mechanized warfare but I think when you're caught by artillery fire on an open road with no cover you're not supposed to sit there and wait to get hit. Advance past the kill zone, retreat, or disperse…

There're hundreds of thousands of soldiers. There're dozens of thousands of tanks and other vehicles. Incompetence is unavoidable and those kinds of situations put this incompetence to focus and hopefully measures will be developed to prevent it from happening in the future.

Why would you hope for that? We should all hope that Russian soldiers remain incompetent and die or withdraw without hurting anyone else.

Re: United States tells citizens: Leave Russia immediately

#133
post #8

Something that's been concerning me about all these UFOs being shot down is that perhaps it could be best explained by the start of something else building up... Realistically these UFO's aren't alien crafts but hostile spy drones. Perhaps the reason we haven't heard about these drones before could be that the US has never felt the need to act (the spying poses no real imminent threat), or maybe the hostile state sen…

Am I wrong to be concerned? I don't think so. Normalcy bias is strong in the public right now and I don't blame people for wanting simple explanations for the recent events. Regarding the balloons my unpopular opinion is that they may have received intel that the spy balloons are to condition the US into complacency and then replace the payload with something else using a later set of balloons. This would never make…

>Russia are approaching the end of their existence as a nation

I'm curious why you think that.

Re: United States tells citizens: Leave Russia immediately

#135

Perhaps Ukraine kept a few nukes hidden that the Russian bookkeepers lost track of. Time to launch may be nearing. And then there's https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/russias-atomic-nightm...

The international community was involved in the disarmament process. I doubt very much that the Pentagon lost count.

Re: United States tells citizens: Leave Russia immediately

#137
post #13
post #4

Summary: this is due to arbitrary arrests of US citizens, not an escalation of the conflict with Russia.

Russia managed to free Viktor Bout in trade for Brittney Griner. It stands to reason then that more US citizens are a handy asset to have for trading.

Many other US citizens have been rotting in Russian jail for the same crime with no effort made to free them, so it stands to reason that any normal tourist wouldn't have a lot of bargaining value. Biden only traded for Griner because she's a woman and famous, despite the fact that she was 100% guilty.

Re: United States tells citizens: Leave Russia immediately

#138
post #8

Something that's been concerning me about all these UFOs being shot down is that perhaps it could be best explained by the start of something else building up... Realistically these UFO's aren't alien crafts but hostile spy drones. Perhaps the reason we haven't heard about these drones before could be that the US has never felt the need to act (the spying poses no real imminent threat), or maybe the hostile state sen…

Am I wrong to be concerned? I don't think so. Normalcy bias is strong in the public right now and I don't blame people for wanting simple explanations for the recent events. Regarding the balloons my unpopular opinion is that they may have received intel that the spy balloons are to condition the US into complacency and then replace the payload with something else using a later set of balloons. This would never make…

> Russia are approaching the end of their existence as a nation

Everything seems to be pointing to that, I really hope you are right.

> regarding the use of nuclear weapons

If they do that they are done. Also I'm not sure if they still have any working nukes. The maintenance is too expensive and I've seen how the things really are in russian science and aerospace industry. I would say that I would be surprised if the situation with nuclear crap is better.

Re: United States tells citizens: Leave Russia immediately

#139
post #8

Something that's been concerning me about all these UFOs being shot down is that perhaps it could be best explained by the start of something else building up... Realistically these UFO's aren't alien crafts but hostile spy drones. Perhaps the reason we haven't heard about these drones before could be that the US has never felt the need to act (the spying poses no real imminent threat), or maybe the hostile state sen…

1. Russia is incentivized to use tactical nukes to destroy ukrainian infrastructure like bridges which are very hard to destroy with other means. 2. US warned that there will be catastrophic consequences if Russia used nuclear weapons. It's not clear what exactly do they mean. But it would be logical to suppose that this would indicate full scale NATO invasion. 3. In this case Russia military doctrine allows to use s…

You're trying really hard to create a path to Armageddon, but your item #1 is extremely weak. Just to confirm - you're saying that bridges are hard to destroy with anything but nuclear weapons?

Re: United States tells citizens: Leave Russia immediately

#140
post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The US itself is in the state of being always a few years away from taken over by a crowd very sympathetic to the Putin's cause and Putin personally. Prolonging this conflict is therefore also quite risky to the current establishment or whatever you want to call the adherents of the post-WW2 world order.

The US is in the state of being always a few years away from taken over by any interest with money. When the money runs out, it is no longer a few years away. See: Sam Bankman-Fried.

That is true, but Russia in particular had practically unlimited money to buy off both the US elites and their opposition, due to the rich natural resources and lack of need to support the high standards of living for the Russian population. Only China has more resources but so far they haven't formed a powerful message US politicians can use to rally their constituents to pro-China causes.
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