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India’s government wants total control of the internet

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The documentary produced by the BBC "The Modi Question", was uploaded onto YouTube several times the week of release but taken down by request of the Indian Government. I was astonished a foreign entity can stop the world watching something if they don't like it, it wasn't just geo blocked it was removed off YouTube.

It was timed perfectly. 20 years later, nobody can question the documentary makers. A hitjob is hitjob.

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We already have "multiple Internets". See China, there is barely anything common ground between the services "we" use and China use.

Applications of the internet are not the internet. However, more specifically, I don't think you can have more than one internet[1]. it is like the universe, by definition that is the whole thing[2]. The instant a network connects to the internet, it becomes part of the internet. 1. there are really two definitions of the internet. A. the set of networks that use the internet protocol. B. the sum of all interconnecte…

This feels like a lot of effort to miss the point being made.

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This is the dark side of the same impulse that compels big tech companies to follow the GDPR even though they aren't headquartered in Europe: If a big enough market is run by an insane jackass, that insane jackassery will spread through the world on the wings of corporate policy. I really wonder what's going to happen when the India-China rivalry spreads to conflicting laws for tech companies that want to do business…

Based on what I've seen most tech companies are already pulling out of China or scaling back their presence so I don't think it will be a big deal.

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The main priority of "Big tech" is profitability not freedom. They're not "giving in" as much as they're following a business model to maximize revenue. Ultimately internet censorship will benefit the biggest companies who are able to keep up with the regulations. It will effectively grant them unofficial monopolies as smaller companies struggle to keep up.

What does this have to do with the article on the Indian government increasing control of the internet?

A corporation trying to align with a specific belief system would mean some countries would fall outside of it.

This leaves them with two choices - either they stop doing business in said countries, or maximize profits by conducting business in those countries by loosening their belief system to include the countries' negatives, such as censorship of political discourse in this case.

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I have learnt a very valuable lesson about my country's people at the face of the fascist govt. Caste affinity triumphs anything and everything. No matter how cruel the BJP is, their core vote bank which is the Upper caste population are not going to deviate away from them. The BJP has perfected formulas to win elections using hook or crook in every state now.

Modi is going to do more fascist stuff and take away rights one after another. The supporters will keep inventing reasons every single time. It will always point to the caste order's interests

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The documentary produced by the BBC "The Modi Question", was uploaded onto YouTube several times the week of release but taken down by request of the Indian Government. I was astonished a foreign entity can stop the world watching something if they don't like it, it wasn't just geo blocked it was removed off YouTube.

"You want access to my market of a billion potential consumers? Do what I say!"

Simple as that really. The government of Tuvalu making a similar request probably would have been politely ignored.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What does this have to do with the article on the Indian government increasing control of the internet?

A corporation trying to align with a specific belief system would mean some countries would fall outside of it. This leaves them with two choices - either they stop doing business in said countries, or maximize profits by conducting business in those countries by loosening their belief system to include the countries' negatives, such as censorship of political discourse in this case.

Yes, companies have to adhere to the laws of a country or stop doing business there. The blame lies with the Indian Government

Re: India’s government wants total control of the internet

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The documentary produced by the BBC "The Modi Question", was uploaded onto YouTube several times the week of release but taken down by request of the Indian Government. I was astonished a foreign entity can stop the world watching something if they don't like it, it wasn't just geo blocked it was removed off YouTube.

But it's on the iPlayer and works perfectly? So you can watch it in your own country https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p0dkb144

BBC iPlayer is restricted to UK residents only.

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We already have "multiple Internets". See China, there is barely anything common ground between the services "we" use and China use.

There's increasingly little ground between what the US uses and the EU uses, and will be even less ground over time as well. Is transferring EU Citizen Personally Identifiable Information to the US, in any capacity, even legal? Privacy Shield has been invalidated, the US passed the CLOUD Act, and GDPR is in force. Many experts say... it isn't, at all, it would just be chaotic if fully enforced.

In 2 countries in Europe, Chromebooks have been ruled incompatible and schools have been prohibited from rolling them out under this rationale, with more countries likely to come with similar rulings. Just one example of the internet and tech splintering. EU also wants to do nonsense that would not fly in the US like Chat Control. What happens to US-based non-compliant services? Looks like some way of banning them needs to come next...

Re: India’s government wants total control of the internet

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The documentary produced by the BBC "The Modi Question", was uploaded onto YouTube several times the week of release but taken down by request of the Indian Government. I was astonished a foreign entity can stop the world watching something if they don't like it, it wasn't just geo blocked it was removed off YouTube.

This is, in fact, the topic of the article linked.
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