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I wonder how long it'll take until there are yeast cultures to produce various psychoactive/scheduled substances on the dark web. https://news.stanford.edu/2020/09/02/scientists-turn-yeast-c...

That seems like a bad idea. Just waiting for the escape and autobrewery syndrome

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> 70% of the world’s population was killed by NEOBOLA-26 but at least they signed the EULA. I’m making fun, but this is one class of knowledge I’m worried about. However, outlawing it doesn’t seem like a solution either.

Why isn't outlawing it the solution? Seems like a pretty good solution

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That seems like a bad idea. Just waiting for the escape and autobrewery syndrome

somebody needs to make movie about that.

No movie I know of, but the worms in this DF Mod:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iE0iHVChHeg

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About Us: "At The ODIN, we believe the future is going to be dominated by genetic engineering and consumer genetic design will be a big part of that." At Cyberdyne Systems, we believe the future is going to be more autonomous, more intelligent and consumer built jet-powered laser-equipped battle bots will be a big part of that.

Yes. There will be autonomous weapon platforms everywhere regardless of our desires, both from nation-states and non-state actors. To defend from them, you might want to understand how they work, and how they are built.

We have to fight Skynet from the inside!

Re: The Odin – DIY genetic engineering

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I mean if you're worried about bioterrorism, I'm sure there are plenty of ways and means to do so outside of convenient packages like this for someone with enough motivation. I mean with enough motivation anyone (assuming they pass a background check) can pursue a degree in biology / genetics, get a job with access to a lab, and do the thing.

It's also really difficult though. Just like people building their own nuclear bombs hasn't been a major worry. The real issue is the CIA, FSB, etc. doing it deliberately.

There's a difference. Building a nuke is actually really easy [1]. The hard part is getting and enriching uranium. For the bio stuff, you only need some lab equipment, where there's no reason why it wouldn't get really cheap and easy to procure.

[1]: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2003/jun/24/usa.science

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My assumption based on their statement was that something being sold is restricted. AFAIK you can do genetic modifications at home in the US

There are restrictions on the sale of dangerous chemicals, and in general the vendors that sell chemicals simply don't sell to private persons at all. I'm not sure where the exact legal boundaries are, and whether the typical stuff you need for genetic experiments falls under some restriction. In general the chemicals you need for that aren't that dangerous, so they might not be restricted by law, but you still will…

I'm very aware that there are restricted and watched/reported chemicals and equipment but the GP claimed that ordering this stuff will get you a visit from law enforcement which implies that they are aware of which things the site is selling that are restricted or watched.

I asked specifically what are they selling that is restricted or watched

Re: The Odin – DIY genetic engineering

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> 70% of the world’s population was killed by NEOBOLA-26 but at least they signed the EULA. I’m making fun, but this is one class of knowledge I’m worried about. However, outlawing it doesn’t seem like a solution either.

Why isn't outlawing it the solution? Seems like a pretty good solution

Because outlawing stuff shifts incentives to favour the most violent entrepeneurs?

Outlawing does not decrease demand, making stuff real expensive, so everyone wants to sell or buy it, but there's no legal protection against fraud or theft, so to meet demand, violence must escalate.

Just look back at prohibition, the drug war, outlawing guns in Britain eskalating knife violence, etc.

The way to handle the problem is not by outlawing products,but by reducing demand for them.

Why do people want drugs and alcohol? Generally to self-medicate. Mitigate the underlying causes,and watch demand evaporate.

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I wonder how long it'll take until there are yeast cultures to produce various psychoactive/scheduled substances on the dark web. https://news.stanford.edu/2020/09/02/scientists-turn-yeast-c...

There have been efforts in the last decade to engineer yeast to produce lysergic acid ( https://www.theguardian.com/science/blog/2011/jun/21/scienti... ). Apparently, a group managed to introduce the complete pathway and published an article last year: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-022-28386-6

That'd be some interesting beer

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> 70% of the world’s population was killed by NEOBOLA-26 but at least they signed the EULA. I’m making fun, but this is one class of knowledge I’m worried about. However, outlawing it doesn’t seem like a solution either.

Only Fauci-funded Chinese laboratories have the right to manipulate pathogens!

*Taxpayer funded

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EU is what now?

don't you remember that the covid vaccine was invented by Americans? oh, wait a minute...

Actually yes, the technology for mRNA vaccines was largely invented in the United States starting in the 1980s. [0] It has since been refined by multiple international commercial teams.

0: https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02483-w

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