Live data from Hacker News

Multi-Account Containers

support.mozilla.org

141–150 of 254 posts

Re: Multi-Account Containers

#143
post #129

Why don't we have complete main domain isolation as an option? It would work like containers, but they would be automatically created for each domain you visit. Go visit youtube.com and anything loaded from that page is in the same container. You'd have to log into each google property as the sites would be separated from one another, and there would probably be a need to merge these containers if say www.example.com…

This add-on has that functionality.

Re: Multi-Account Containers

#144
I often visit news sites such as Hacker News. Can I use this "multi-account container" addon + something to get an experience like "iPhone Screen Time" and track my viewing time on news sites?

Re: Multi-Account Containers

#145

I use multi-account containers and they are wonderful. Combined with Simple Tab Groups[0] I have different workspaces set up, all with different creds and different auto-logins. Chrome has a version of this that doesn't work properly (much like "Incognito" mode doesn't work properly). This should be one of the biggest selling points of FF. [0]: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/simple-tab-gr...

Tab Groups were better when they were baked into the browser. They were extremely buggy when the code was removed and moved into an extension. Not only often losing all of my tabs - but completely forgetting all of my tab groups altogether. Causing me to lose not only important data but also having to re-organize all my tabs into tab groups only to inevitably have to redo all the work next time FF decided it wanted to crash (which was multiple times a day at that point due to the extension...). It happened with such regularity that I grew sick of it and it was the single motivating factor that pushed me to use Chrome as my default browser.

I can only hope/assume they've gotten better since then - but it burned me really, really bad. So much that it still pisses me off talking about it all these years later.

Two of the original features that were extremely buggy were a hotkey to open up a visual overview of tab groups (originally Ctrl+Shift+E) and a way to search for a tab and reduce the number of visible tab groups to only groups containing a tab matching that search.

I see in the screenshots that this functionality seems to exist but also (based on the color coding) plays nicely with containers now. Would you be willing to vouch that it is more stable nowadays? Because if it isn't a steaming pile of shit that crashes if you so much as look in its direction that would certainly motivate me to return back to Firefox.

Re: Multi-Account Containers

#146
post #128

Earlier quoted context omitted.

With containers you can retain the info. InPrivate stuff is gone once you close the browser (bar any nationstate spy). It's also useful because InPrivate windows share a cookie jar in Firefox.

> InPrivate windows share a cookie jar in Firefox Wow, should it be a bug? Im Safari user, have little FF experience.

It certainly defied my expectations. Chrome is the same. All I can think is that they wanted an inprivate window's tabs to share a jar and that then gets kinda complicated with popping tabs into their own window, putting them back, flicking between those accidentally while dragging a tab, etc.

Looking at the docs it appears that Safari gets around this by just having a separate jar per tab? On desktop at least, mobile appears to be shared.

Re: Multi-Account Containers

#147

I could not have done my last job without this feature, because it required assuming multiple dummy identities across various chat platforms communicating with each other. I still use it to separate out accounts for different parts of my life (work vs conference planner vs personal).

That sounds kinda ominous, like you were pumping NFTs or spreading government propaganda or something.

Re: Multi-Account Containers

#148
post #145

I use multi-account containers and they are wonderful. Combined with Simple Tab Groups[0] I have different workspaces set up, all with different creds and different auto-logins. Chrome has a version of this that doesn't work properly (much like "Incognito" mode doesn't work properly). This should be one of the biggest selling points of FF. [0]: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/simple-tab-gr...

Tab Groups were better when they were baked into the browser. They were extremely buggy when the code was removed and moved into an extension. Not only often losing all of my tabs - but completely forgetting all of my tab groups altogether. Causing me to lose not only important data but also having to re-organize all my tabs into tab groups only to inevitably have to redo all the work next time FF decided it wanted t…

> Tab Groups were better when they were baked into the browser. They were extremely buggy when the code was removed and moved into an extension. Not only often losing all of my tabs - but completely forgetting all of my tab groups altogether. Causing me to lose not only important data but also having to re-organize all my tabs into tab groups only to inevitably have to redo all the work next time FF decided it wanted to crash (which was multiple times a day at that point due to the extension...). It happened with such regularity that I grew sick of it and it was the single motivating factor that pushed me to use Chrome as my default browser.

This hasn't happened to me -- my biggest issues have been around mistakenly clicking into a browser group in a second browser window.

Since I have two browsers open, I keep one for sort of ephemeral stuff which isn't on a browser group at all, then main stuff (email, slack, etc) on the one. Note that pinned tabs also work fine -- I have a pinned tab that's not in a container at all (my personal email) and it's fine across all groups.

If it helps, the extension now takes copious backups across browser upgradest at the very least (that I have to delete from time to time), files named `STF-backups-FF-`.

> I can only hope/assume they've gotten better since then - but it burned me really, really bad. So much that it still pisses me off talking about it all these years later.

> Two of the original features that were extremely buggy were a hotkey to open up a visual overview of tab groups (originally Ctrl+Shift+E) and a way to search for a tab and reduce the number of visible tab groups to only groups containing a tab matching that search.

Sorry to hear that... I have to say that I don't use the hotkeys that much -- I don't use a visual over view, I just go up to the add on, click it, switch into the workspace and usually I'm there for an 1-4 hours.

Maybe you could look through the release notes? I don't know what the version you used last was, but I defnitely haven't lost tabs or been very frustrated with STG in a long time.

The color coding is fantastic. I have most groups linked to a container profile, all new tabs open in the profile and everything is tidy, separate, and color coded.

I can definitely vouch that it's more stable these days -- I am daily driving it and haven't thought about it in what has to be months to years. It's a crucial part of my workflow -- I use it to seriously separate work that I do for various projects (of course I have to re-login to Github, Gitlab, etc).

Re: Multi-Account Containers

#149

I've been using this since it was new. I'm very frustrated to say the UI/UX hasn't seen any significant update. Containers are still synced separately, so any fresh install of Firefox will have the tutorial UX and the default 4 containers, even after syncing. Also, address bar completion is still monolithic, making it very easy to accidentally open a site in an undesired container. That can be worked around by adding…

I had similar complaints about the UX for the built-in containers extension, so as a labor of love, I wrote a helper extension to make containers a little more intuitive:

https://addons.mozilla.org/addon/containers-helper

The simplest improvement is that you can use e.g. Alt+Shift+D to open a little popup and start typing to find your container(s).

You can also use the extension to import and export containers, as well as some other features.

The extension respects your privacy completely and is not programmed to make any outbound network requests.

Re: Multi-Account Containers

#150

I use multi-account containers and they are wonderful. Combined with Simple Tab Groups[0] I have different workspaces set up, all with different creds and different auto-logins. Chrome has a version of this that doesn't work properly (much like "Incognito" mode doesn't work properly). This should be one of the biggest selling points of FF. [0]: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/simple-tab-gr...

Tab groups sounds great but the permissions required for the addon are too invasive to grant to a third party.

For this reason alone, tab groups should be baked in imo

Post reply on HN