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Military shoots down another high-altitude object, over Lake Huron: officials

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Re: Military shoots down another high-altitude object, over Lake Huron: officials

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Have aliens invaded and we just don’t know about it, the government holding them off lowkey? Edit: Now China’s shooting them down! https://www.forbes.com/sites/mattnovak/2023/02/12/china-says...

People have forgotten 20 years ago the US intercepted Iraqi aluminium tubes. They are fully capable of detecting what ever they want to imagine. And these days American imagination is purely restricted to what collects Likes and upvotes.

What do you mean by this?

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post #193

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Utter nonsense. This would be a FTL alien civ. A civilization with many orders of magnitude more energy available. And manufacturing capabilities. And AI. And many other things. They’re not gonna send a stupid balloon. They’re not going to care about a balloon. It’s inconceivable that a civ could get here and not also have the ability to manufacture such basic technology on an enormous scale very easily.

> this would be a FTL alien civ. Why FTL? or any of the things you list. We are already looking to fly tiny probes past alien exoplanets with Breakthrough Starshot.

Breakthrough Starshot is about sending a couple grams of tech on a multi decade journey. We are very far from having the tech to do this. You’re right. They don’t technically need to be FTL capable. But the rest of it remains. You’ll need an immense amount of energy move this far.

If you can get balloons into earth safely, you can also just pelt the planet with big chunks of metal at speeds more deadly than nuclear explosions.

Re: Military shoots down another high-altitude object, over Lake Huron: officials

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Couple of interesting twitter threads on this from Tyler (The Drive). He suggests this has been coming/happening for some time. https://twitter.com/aviation_intel/status/162414986417840128... Also that we are seeing a lot more now because we have turned down/off the filters on the radars. Which means also we can expect a lot more false positives. https://twitter.com/aviation_intel/status/162461466198661120...

His article on the matter from 2021 is quiet helpful in understanding what’s (probably) going on here: https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/40054/adversary-drones...

Re: Military shoots down another high-altitude object, over Lake Huron: officials

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If an agitator puts up a balloon and payload, one of which contains a potentially dangerous substance, and a nation in question shoots it down, thus releasing and activating that substance, who is responsible? And who does the public deem responsible? (I don't think this is realistic, just musing about other schemes that could be going on.)

if an agitator launches a missile at another country and a nation in question gets hit by it, thus releasing and activating an explosion, who is responsible?

Re: Military shoots down another high-altitude object, over Lake Huron: officials

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An unnamed congressional aide claims the object was shaped 'like an octagon.' Sounds like BS, but you'd like to think the Wall Street Journal has some capacity to to identify and filter quality sources. https://www.wsj.com/articles/latest-flying-objects-shot-down...

Schumer came out and said each of these objects was a balloon of some sort.

https://nypost.com/2023/02/12/latest-2-objects-shot-down-by-...

Re: Military shoots down another high-altitude object, over Lake Huron: officials

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post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, two were over remote parts of Alaska. And this one just happened like an hour ago, so maybe pics will come out from people on the ground. In any case, the best pics from the first one over Montana were shot with telephoto lenses, so it’s not like anybody with a phone can snap a close up shot

The military has released radar, IR and other sensor data from other UFO's before. Why not release them for these things?

Because operational security. Why give adversaries info about your capabilities.

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post #231

If an agitator puts up a balloon and payload, one of which contains a potentially dangerous substance, and a nation in question shoots it down, thus releasing and activating that substance, who is responsible? And who does the public deem responsible? (I don't think this is realistic, just musing about other schemes that could be going on.)

Without a doubt, the person who flies the dangerous thing over the other people is the aggressor. Is this debatable to you?

In Seattle, when a car drives into a building, it's the building's fault.

https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/transportation/how...

Re: Military shoots down another high-altitude object, over Lake Huron: officials

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If an agitator puts up a balloon and payload, one of which contains a potentially dangerous substance, and a nation in question shoots it down, thus releasing and activating that substance, who is responsible? And who does the public deem responsible? (I don't think this is realistic, just musing about other schemes that could be going on.)

Without a doubt, the person who flies the dangerous thing over the other people is the aggressor. Is this debatable to you?

So when MH17 was shot down, would Malaysia Airlines be responsible for harm done to people of Грабове, had it fell on this village directly?

Any airliner is a flying object full of dangerous chemicals, flammable and toxic.

Re: Military shoots down another high-altitude object, over Lake Huron: officials

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post #231

If an agitator puts up a balloon and payload, one of which contains a potentially dangerous substance, and a nation in question shoots it down, thus releasing and activating that substance, who is responsible? And who does the public deem responsible? (I don't think this is realistic, just musing about other schemes that could be going on.)

Without a doubt, the person who flies the dangerous thing over the other people is the aggressor. Is this debatable to you?

OK, plane flying overhead. You shoot it down. Who's going to be held responsible? The airline or the people taking it out of the sky?

Where's the line drawn if the dangerous thing I mentioned before has a practical use? Maybe the balloon is filled with a mix that is toxic to something (crop, livestock, etc). Or there's a component of the payload that is dangerous when hit by a missile or making contact with the ground?

I'm guessing China sees this all as low risk research and nothing more exciting than that, but just trying to imagine what else might be going on, or come next. (I'm not anywhere near either China or the US.)

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