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Re: Another Russian spacecraft at ISS has a coolant leak

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Post by bilqis »

seanstev wrote: post #15
fastball wrote: post #8

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Didn't most of the advanced science and engineering come from the USSR?

USSR =! Russia. Majority of main advances came from the satellites, such as Ukrainians (Glushko, Korolev, chelomei, etc.).

Majority of main advances came from cooperation and how education, science and engineering was organised and funded. So all achievements are Soviet achievements, not Russian/Ukrainian/Georgian/etc, saying otherwise has been a common political tool of nationalist in all post-ussr countries.

Re: Another Russian spacecraft at ISS has a coolant leak

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Post by shagie »

bigdict wrote: post #122
bandyaboot wrote: post #89

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First, there’s no “if”, it’s a fact that can be easily verified. Second, I don’t pretend to know for a fact it was Russia. One of several reasons that I think it’s most likely is that Russia is the country involved here where one man’s irrational decisions would turn into action with virtually no checks.

The volume has certainly been going down for a while, I'm not sure who's responsible for that. Like I would actually need to research that part. Russia can stop the pump while Europe can suspend payments. Both actions have the same effect on volume sold.

September 29, 2022 - https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60131520

Russia has been reducing gas supplies through Nord Stream 1 for a number of months.

In June, it cut deliveries through the pipeline by 75% - from 170m cubic metres of gas a day to roughly 40m cubic metres.

In July, Russia shut it down for 10 days, citing the need for maintenance. When it reopened, the flow was halved to 20m cubic metres a day.

In late August, it shut down Nord Stream 1 entirely, blaming problems with equipment. The pipeline has not been open since then.

Re: Another Russian spacecraft at ISS has a coolant leak

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Post by bilqis »

simion314 wrote: post #28
ezconnect wrote: post #13

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That's like saying the Russian blown up the Nordstream pipeline to sabotage their own revenue stream.

Many do this mistake to consider "Russia" instead of just Putin, those two entities interests do not align, so shit that might not make sense for Russia to do might make perfect sense for Putin to do. We had the cases where instead of admitting that their warship was hit Putin regime pushed the narrative that it was just Russian incompetence. So for sure it makes no sense for Russia to want their popes sabotage, but…

It’s also a mistake to think that Putin is some kind of Czar with absolute ultimate power.

Re: Another Russian spacecraft at ISS has a coolant leak

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Post by ianburrell »

thriftwy wrote: post #106
dotnet00 wrote: post #57

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'last 60 years' doesn't really mean much when it's been obvious in the past 2 decades or so that their capabilities have been deteriorating rapidly compared to what they once were. They haven't sent an interplanetary science mission in decades, their next-generation vehicles are constantly delayed or unreliable, Nauka was an entire 12 years behind schedule and so on. Now on top of that, they're under heavy sanctions…

> which is also why Ukraine punched above its weight in the space sector In 1991 it was expected that independent Ukraine, a 52 million strong country, will basically be the next Spain. What did it punch in the space sector in the last 30 years? They did indeed inherit a huge chunk of USSR industry and science and nothing went out of it.

They kept launching Tsyklon-2, Tsyklon-3, and Zenit-2 rockets. They developed Zenit-3 and Dnepr rockets from Soviet designs. The launches dropped off after 2014 since launch locations were Russian. Ukranian company builds the first stage for Antares rocket. They were working on Cyclone-4M rocket but war delayed if not canceled it.

Re: Another Russian spacecraft at ISS has a coolant leak

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Post by calgarymicro »

thriftwy wrote: post #106
dotnet00 wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

'last 60 years' doesn't really mean much when it's been obvious in the past 2 decades or so that their capabilities have been deteriorating rapidly compared to what they once were. They haven't sent an interplanetary science mission in decades, their next-generation vehicles are constantly delayed or unreliable, Nauka was an entire 12 years behind schedule and so on. Now on top of that, they're under heavy sanctions…

> which is also why Ukraine punched above its weight in the space sector In 1991 it was expected that independent Ukraine, a 52 million strong country, will basically be the next Spain. What did it punch in the space sector in the last 30 years? They did indeed inherit a huge chunk of USSR industry and science and nothing went out of it.

> In 1991 it was expected that independent Ukraine, a 52 million strong country, will basically be the next Spain.

This was expected by who? At independence, Ukraine was one of the poorest countries in Europe, and it remains that way today.

Re: Another Russian spacecraft at ISS has a coolant leak

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Post by Nginx487 »

bryananderson wrote: post #116
samwillis wrote: post #10

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> is this just usual Russian incompetence? I don't think there is an impression of that or really ever has been. Russia has successfully launched humans into space more regularly and at a lower cost than the US for the last 60 years. (Well until the last few years) I think it's more likely that this is just an occurrence of something akin to the birthday paradox and sometimes things just happen. It's the narrative du…

This is outdated, unfortunately. The Russian space program has suffered from immense brain-drain, budget cuts, and corruption, all of which have worn it down over 30 years and resulted in vastly reduced quality control. In the past handful of years, on ISS alone, there have been: * Progress coolant leak * Soyuz coolant leak * Nauka module rogue thruster sending entire station spinning out of control * Soyuz hull leak…

Why "unfortunately"? When space program of basically bigger size North Korea suffers of brain drain and incompetence, it's a good thing by all means (I'm Russian myself)

Re: Another Russian spacecraft at ISS has a coolant leak

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Post by bigdict »

shagie wrote: post #132
bigdict wrote: post #122

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The volume has certainly been going down for a while, I'm not sure who's responsible for that. Like I would actually need to research that part. Russia can stop the pump while Europe can suspend payments. Both actions have the same effect on volume sold.

September 29, 2022 - https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60131520 Russia has been reducing gas supplies through Nord Stream 1 for a number of months. In June, it cut deliveries through the pipeline by 75% - from 170m cubic metres of gas a day to roughly 40m cubic metres. In July, Russia shut it down for 10 days, citing the need for maintenance. When it reopened, the flow was halved to 20m cubic metres a day. In lat…

Looks like you are right.

Re: Another Russian spacecraft at ISS has a coolant leak

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Post by ajsnigrutin »

philwelch wrote: post #117
wheelerof4te wrote: post #105

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If the US did blow the pipeline I would be impressed and fully supportive of the decision. I just think Biden lacks the courage to authorize such an action. It’s possible that it was done behind his back, since I very much doubt Biden himself is in control of things to any real extent.

As someone from the balkans, how about you put a uniform on and go fight a war somewhere yourself, and keep us, other people out of your warmongering. Wars are not like call of duty, or whatever your sick fantasy is.

Re: Another Russian spacecraft at ISS has a coolant leak

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Post by ajsnigrutin »

philwelch wrote: post #127
wheelerof4te wrote: post #119

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"If the US did blow the pipeline I would be impressed and fully supportive of the decision." Then you are also fully supportive of starting (more like escalating, at this point) a WWIII. I hope you never find about the true cost of such a decision, and of war in general. But seeing how you support this act of war, don't be surprised when one day it comes knocking at your door.

Russia isn't capable of waging a WWIII. It's been almost a year and they haven't even reached the Dnieper.

And ukraine managed to use up literally $100b+ and deplete all the european weapons stockpiles [1] and couldn't even defend a few villages.

[1] https://www.ft.com/content/4eb1af29-2491-458c-9f69-e065cba58... https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/germany-weapons-war-ammun... https://consent.yahoo.com/v2/collectConsent?sessionId=3_cc-s... ...

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