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StarFighter 16 inch: 4K Coreboot/Ryzen Linux laptop

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Re: StarFighter 16 inch: 4K Coreboot/Ryzen Linux laptop

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> removable webcam Mmhm... Having owned a couple "linux first" laptops now, the cynic in me is saying that they are trying to flip a design limitation into a strength. They wanted slim bezels and to maximize screen real estate. They can't afford to do a notch like apple to get there. The solution? Make the webcam a peripheral and sell it as a privacy boon.

TBH it's not a bad idea. Integrated webcams are crap anyway.

Re: StarFighter 16 inch: 4K Coreboot/Ryzen Linux laptop

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This Linux laptop looks too good to be true. It's available with an AMD or Intel processor, there aren't any strange ergonomic decisions (other than the stow-able web-cam). In particular, they centered they trackpad + keyboard, and it looks like it has decent thermals. The battery is rated for 18 hours. You can choose between a medium resolution, high frame rate display (UHD @ 165Hz) or a 4K 60Hz display. The screen…

> Am I missing something? Yeah. The company is three people with practically no money at hand. I can't imagine this being real. Check "full accounts made up to 28 February 2022" https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/c... with cash at hand being just 13,887 pounds. How on earth are you making a laptop from that? Framework started with a nine million seed round and had the former head of hardware a…

It's a real company and many people have laptops from them. Here are a couple HN threads about it:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31034024

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28986767

Re: StarFighter 16 inch: 4K Coreboot/Ryzen Linux laptop

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I'm really curious about people that actually use laptop speakers. Even the best laptop speakers I've heard (I've heard MacBook speakers too) sound terrible. Other than for a quick video or demo or whatever, who is seriously listening to videos or music on laptop speakers... And why??? Even a cheap pair of earbuds sounds better to me.

I have a 2019 16" MBP and love the speakers. I regularly use them for music listening, Netflix and Youtube.

Just to pile on here, the 2019-2021 refresh Intel Macbook Pro 13 and 16 have laptop speakers that rival good portable bluetooth speakers complete with shockingly deep bass, clear midrange and defined treble. They are by far and away the best laptop speakers I've heard. Nice decently powered headphone jack as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNUz-cqkjVA

https://youtu.be/LGOmbNRlZdM?t=215

Re: StarFighter 16 inch: 4K Coreboot/Ryzen Linux laptop

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I am loving the number of linux laptops coming out. And I like that this company has an option starting at £400. All we need is for schools or governments to buy in and we can kill windows

Lol, no. Hardware support is only a piece of the puzzle, arguably the first one. Then you have to find suitable, well-performing replacements for every software being used, from generic to specific to custom LOB.

Re: StarFighter 16 inch: 4K Coreboot/Ryzen Linux laptop

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I still find it hard to believe that such a device can be less that $1000, considering how many parts have to be designed, how many cutting edge components there are in there, the depth of the supply chain and the manufacturing quality. Modern manufacturing is insane. Probably the most complex single device humans can make is a CPU die and you can have a mid-range one for the price of a meal, and this consumer laptop…

> you can have a mid-range one for the price of a meal Is that an expensive meal or a cheap CPU? A meal for a family? My mental model for a mid-range CPU is an i3 (don't forget Pentium / Celeron), and even for those Intel recommends charging $109-119 for the i3-13100F (they had a similar range for the i3-10105F). Even if you go all the way back to the first generation of Intel Core cpus, the i3-530 had a recommended…

> Is that an expensive meal or a cheap CPU?

I don't know how things in Deep America are, but since Herr Putin started his little anschluss, a meal for two in a nice European restaurant can easily run in the 3-digits. And I'm talking nice, not Michelin-nice - for those you'll need 3 digits for each person.

Re: StarFighter 16 inch: 4K Coreboot/Ryzen Linux laptop

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I’d love to know about a good laptop for Linux that has 32gb RAM and a decent amount of IO and a decent keyboard.

The HP DevOne goes up to 64GB. Terrible screen, however. https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/16189462

HP made the only laptop I ever bought that literally fried itself. Anecdotal and all that, but they're dead to me.

Re: StarFighter 16 inch: 4K Coreboot/Ryzen Linux laptop

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>To this day, we still haven't found a competitors laptop that performs faster with the same hardware.

I am quite curious how on earth "a laptop specially made for linux" will enable to have more performance on same hardware? More thermal pipe or you write your own drive?

Re: StarFighter 16 inch: 4K Coreboot/Ryzen Linux laptop

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I really want to like this laptop but... If you go to their twitter, its a constant barrage of angry customers who havent received their orders in over a year. I dont think im okay with shelling out $3000, waiting possibly over a year, and being told "we are working on it" the entire time. I personally just went with Tuxedo for a linux first laptop.

Except for the wonky webcam (which I can live with), and the lack of GPU (which I'm less sure about; I do a lot of ML workloads), this laptop is exactly the laptop I'd buy, if I knew it actually existed. Problem is, I'm not confident it actually will exist. The webcam decision is wonky. My Thinkpad has a little cover I can slide over the webcam. I can buy aftermarket stick-on covers too. Why the complex magnetic mess…

Web cam is also mic and the ability to know it’s completely removed is good because you often see physical mic switches that only disable via software. Also there are facilities that don’t allow any hardware with either

Re: StarFighter 16 inch: 4K Coreboot/Ryzen Linux laptop

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From https://us.starlabs.systems/pages/about-us > In 2017, we started using Clevo as a supplier. The result was; the Star Lite Mk I, the Star LabTop Mk II and the Star LabTop Pro Mk I. There were a vast array of options to chose from in these laptops, from wireless to memory to pre-installed distribution. You may be familiar with Clevo as they have a lot of resellers across the world. It was a step in the right direc…

Wait so they design it in house? That's pretty amazing considering their small size, especially compared to system76.

They’re brought up on every “alternative to the Mac” thread as a brand that’s explicitly not a Clevo reseller but they somehow never get much attention.
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