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StarFighter 16 inch: 4K Coreboot/Ryzen Linux laptop

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Post by brookst »

mihaaly wrote: post #165
chx wrote: post #54

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> Am I missing something? Yeah. The company is three people with practically no money at hand. I can't imagine this being real. Check "full accounts made up to 28 February 2022" https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/c... with cash at hand being just 13,887 pounds. How on earth are you making a laptop from that? Framework started with a nine million seed round and had the former head of hardware a…

They seem to be real entrepreneurs running the thing from a farm in rural settings [1] where the director lives (same personal address declared). If I read it right they are in ca. 400k debt so far, working it down slowly. I am wishing them quick success as their product looks great. Perhaps if I will be patient enough waiting 5 month for delivery after payment and will not worry about if warranty (or even shipment)…

“Sugar the honey” is a great turn of phrase and new to me. Thank you!

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Post by ahoya »

ETH_start wrote: post #224
philliphaydon wrote: post #95

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I hope places continue to not accept Bitcoin. I can’t wait till it fades away.

Your expression of hostility to crypto is a good example of the sentiment System76 is catering to by not accepting it. In any case, neither your opposition nor my fanboyism will determine crypto's long term success. Only its inherent utility will.

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Re: StarFighter 16 inch: 4K Coreboot/Ryzen Linux laptop

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Post by localghost3000 »

> removable webcam

Mmhm... Having owned a couple "linux first" laptops now, the cynic in me is saying that they are trying to flip a design limitation into a strength. They wanted slim bezels and to maximize screen real estate. They can't afford to do a notch like apple to get there. The solution? Make the webcam a peripheral and sell it as a privacy boon.

Re: StarFighter 16 inch: 4K Coreboot/Ryzen Linux laptop

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Post by brookst »

jnsaff2 wrote: post #114
wtallis wrote: post #107

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From https://us.starlabs.systems/pages/about-us > In 2017, we started using Clevo as a supplier. The result was; the Star Lite Mk I, the Star LabTop Mk II and the Star LabTop Pro Mk I. There were a vast array of options to chose from in these laptops, from wireless to memory to pre-installed distribution. You may be familiar with Clevo as they have a lot of resellers across the world. It was a step in the right direc…

> that business model does not involve owning your own factories Apple does not own their own factories.

Apple’s manufacturing story is complex. They design most of the parts, and they often own the much of the equipment in the factories. Apple’s involvement with their suppliers is much much deeper than companies who resell ODM equipment.

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Post by DoreenMichele »

mihaaly wrote: post #165
chx wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Am I missing something? Yeah. The company is three people with practically no money at hand. I can't imagine this being real. Check "full accounts made up to 28 February 2022" https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/c... with cash at hand being just 13,887 pounds. How on earth are you making a laptop from that? Framework started with a nine million seed round and had the former head of hardware a…

They seem to be real entrepreneurs running the thing from a farm in rural settings [1] where the director lives (same personal address declared). If I read it right they are in ca. 400k debt so far, working it down slowly. I am wishing them quick success as their product looks great. Perhaps if I will be patient enough waiting 5 month for delivery after payment and will not worry about if warranty (or even shipment)…

Frankly, if it's three people, you're lucky it's not riddled with typos and grammatical errors. If "we aren't polished at PR" is your big criticism, it's a nit.

If they are successful, they'll eventually hire someone and likely get some polish on those details.

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Post by brookst »

SturgeonsLaw wrote: post #180
lucb1e wrote: post #72

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Netherlands, Germany, Belgium, and more limited experience in Luxembourg. (I've been to more places but honestly don't remember what drink prices were like in Finland ten years ago, let alone remembering what the Icelandic króna prices amounted to when I was there more recently.) It's often not offered because it sounds like asking for a free drink instead of paying ~13 euros per liter which seems to be the average n…

They charge more for these things because people will pay it and they like making more money

Also because the labor costs of service don’t change based on what people are carrying around.

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Post by brookst »

MobiusHorizons wrote: post #112
userbinator wrote: post #51

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They've clearly learned some things from Apple.

Unfortunately low power ddr4 (lpddr4) does not come on SODIMs, soldered ram is the only way to get it. I know everyone likes to shit on apple about this, (and they definitely should about soldered storage) but there are practical engineering reasons for soldered ram. Note that the framework laptop has abysmal battery life relative to the competition.

Note that modern apple ram is not just soldered but actually in the SoC package. Sucks for upgradability, but that’s how they get 400Gb/s UMA speeds.

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Post by belter »

stevehawk wrote: post #271
belter wrote: post #196

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If you are talking about YouTube reviews. Please tell me where you find in-depth honest reviews. Because every channel I have seen on anything...Is claiming independent reviews, while getting product test samples loaned for 1 or 2 years. Engaging on a direct contact with the marketing departments of the vendors, and working under the certainty that if they ever do a thoughtful and true review with a bad rating, the v…

linus tech tips?

Linus seems a nice guy, but with 20 or more employees, and a channel that needs to review products first, works with embargoes organized by the vendors. As any YouTube business, competes for views. A really bad (honest?) review won't get him more samples. So the incentives are on the wrong place.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28608132

https://www.reddit.com/r/LinusTechTips/comments/y95kt4/what_...

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Post by wpietri »

moremetadata wrote: post #273
wpietri wrote: post #272

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> How on Earth could a customer looking up a vendor's business information be construed doxxing? I think "doxxing" has in some cases evolved from a sometimes-necessary norm in pseudonymous forums to a context-free knee-jerk reaction to somebody's details being out there. I appreciate the norm when it allows people to safely be themselves among pseudonymous peers. Yes, by all means let's keep each other feeling safe.…

> But like you, when somebody is doing business with the public, I think we should expect to know who they are. If you want public accountability, then start with the legislators. I'll give you an example, the state claims to have the publics interest at heart, especially kids, so why dont they teach law to kids at school? You cant assume parents have the best interests of their kids at heart. Some state employees wi…

What?

I mean yes, you talk about some good things. Legislators should be more accountable. I'm already on record as advocating not only for the existing financial transparency at the federal level, but that elected officials should have every financial transaction be part of a public record while they're in office and for years after. Because sunlight is the best disinfectant.

For the same reason, people taking money from the public should be on public record. This is hardly novel. When I had a PO box years ago, the USPS would doggedly protect the privacy of box-holders. But if you were doing business with the public using the box, you didn't get the same protections, because they didn't want people using PO boxes to scam the public and then vanish.

I think forum anti-doxing etiquette is perfectly fine for the contexts in which it originated. But when we enter the public sphere of money and power, I think transparency is an important check on all sorts of malfeasance.

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