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I Tried Ketamine to Treat My Depression. It Was Terrifying

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Re: I Tried Ketamine to Treat My Depression. It Was Terrifying

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Mindset and Setting are so important to have right. If you are not in the right mindset, go do something else. It reads like the dosage was also a bit too high for the first time, and while I appreciate medical purity levels in things the doc can give you, injecting everything is just ew. You can get plenty of that active ingredient ingesting it like a normal savage through your face like God intended. Anyway, ketamine is not a psychedelic, is it? And if you're 65, find some younger friends and go to a rave. I think the clinical setting is maybe the least helpful for overcoming the emotions you don't want. Too bad the damage is already done with articles like this one, that don't need further inspection by most of the population. Why, one anecdotal uncomfortable experience by someone shafted by the medical sector cashing in on research results without mastery of the medium, just one is enough to derail helpful research and exploration for decades. Is it grossly irresponsible to post what should be in the Erowid experience vault to the Washington Post? Uh. yeah. Yeah it is.

Re: I Tried Ketamine to Treat My Depression. It Was Terrifying

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I have taken LSD but not ketamine. It seems crazy to me to take a psychedelic while in any remotely depressed mental state. Even though the author knew it helps to have a positive mindset, I imagine her mindset was not really that positive at all, having been depressed for many years. I don't think we should treat these drugs as panacea, and I don't think our understanding of depression is strong enough to definitely prescribe these in one case versus another.

Re: I Tried Ketamine to Treat My Depression. It Was Terrifying

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post #3

Mindset and Setting are so important to have right. If you are not in the right mindset, go do something else. It reads like the dosage was also a bit too high for the first time, and while I appreciate medical purity levels in things the doc can give you, injecting everything is just ew. You can get plenty of that active ingredient ingesting it like a normal savage through your face like God intended. Anyway, ketami…

> It reads like the dosage was also a bit too high for the first time, and while I appreciate medical purity levels in things the doc can give you, injecting everything is just ew.

I was thinking about this when the author said he was transiting from lozenge to injection. I'd of wanted to stay with lozenges until that experience became more productive.

Re: I Tried Ketamine to Treat My Depression. It Was Terrifying

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post #3

Mindset and Setting are so important to have right. If you are not in the right mindset, go do something else. It reads like the dosage was also a bit too high for the first time, and while I appreciate medical purity levels in things the doc can give you, injecting everything is just ew. You can get plenty of that active ingredient ingesting it like a normal savage through your face like God intended. Anyway, ketami…

Did you seriously just suggest that people should ignore treatment suggestions by real doctors and go to a rave? And then have the gall to call the author irresponsible?

This is one of the many reasons why normal people are disgusted by rave culture.

Re: I Tried Ketamine to Treat My Depression. It Was Terrifying

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Anecdotes and auto-biographies are the easiest to write, as they require the least research and one is already so familiar with the protagonist.

It will be nice to see ketamine and psychedelics as part of a toolbox professionals can use for treatment. Many current antidepressants cause strong suicidal and homicidal urges. Look at the widely prescribed citalopram disclaimer.

Here's an anecdote: close person to me was crying from how hard they wanted to end it all, as well as delivered urinary tract problems, for life, from one month of citalopram, as per prescription dose.

Or you know, we could discuss somewhat proper research in connection to treatment for depression. The current chemical solutions have so many side-effects that there is a reason medical professionals have been proactively trying and seeking alternative treatment. Ketamine appears very promising.

Re: I Tried Ketamine to Treat My Depression. It Was Terrifying

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post #3

Mindset and Setting are so important to have right. If you are not in the right mindset, go do something else. It reads like the dosage was also a bit too high for the first time, and while I appreciate medical purity levels in things the doc can give you, injecting everything is just ew. You can get plenty of that active ingredient ingesting it like a normal savage through your face like God intended. Anyway, ketami…

Did you seriously just suggest that people should ignore treatment suggestions by real doctors and go to a rave? And then have the gall to call the author irresponsible? This is one of the many reasons why normal people are disgusted by rave culture.

Those disgusted by rave culture really should get out more

Re: I Tried Ketamine to Treat My Depression. It Was Terrifying

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I was given ketamine to reduce my dislocated shoulder.

I experienced something very similar to what the author writes, ending up in a black void and feeling like I'm tumbling into nothingness. I remember yelling out in the ER "no, no, NO!" as the spinning and tumbling toward the void increased.

I believe recreational uses refer to this as the "k-hole" and I found it extremely unpleasant.

Re: I Tried Ketamine to Treat My Depression. It Was Terrifying

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post #3

Mindset and Setting are so important to have right. If you are not in the right mindset, go do something else. It reads like the dosage was also a bit too high for the first time, and while I appreciate medical purity levels in things the doc can give you, injecting everything is just ew. You can get plenty of that active ingredient ingesting it like a normal savage through your face like God intended. Anyway, ketami…

Did you seriously just suggest that people should ignore treatment suggestions by real doctors and go to a rave? And then have the gall to call the author irresponsible? This is one of the many reasons why normal people are disgusted by rave culture.

> one of the many reasons why normal people are disgusted by rave culture

I’ve never been to a rave but I’ve also never met anyone in my life who has expressed disgust by rave culture. Is this a thing?

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