The FBI’s most controversial surveillance tool is under threat
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Re: The FBI’s most controversial surveillance tool is under threat
#2Perhaps we could move collected intelligence data into an agency, specifically tasked with insuring it's only used in a constitutional manner. Search requests would be submitted to agents who know when warrants are required.
Re: The FBI’s most controversial surveillance tool is under threat
#3Why aren’t these people in prison? They broke the law and committed crimes. Is it connections or is it that they have some sort of immunity?
Re: The FBI’s most controversial surveillance tool is under threat
#4Perhaps we could move collected intelligence data into an agency, specifically tasked with insuring it's only used in a constitutional manner. Search requests would be submitted to agents who know when warrants are required.
A system similar to this was already in place for warrantless surveillance, the FISA courts, which have become a rubber stamp.
These systems that are supposed to be a check on state power eventually become far too comfortable with the agencies they are supposed to have an adversarial relationship with.
Re: The FBI’s most controversial surveillance tool is under threat
#5Perhaps we could move collected intelligence data into an agency, specifically tasked with insuring it's only used in a constitutional manner. Search requests would be submitted to agents who know when warrants are required.
> collected intelligence data.
> constitutional manner.
Collecting the data is the unconstitutional bit.
Re: The FBI’s most controversial surveillance tool is under threat
#6Perhaps we could move collected intelligence data into an agency, specifically tasked with insuring it's only used in a constitutional manner. Search requests would be submitted to agents who know when warrants are required.
A system similar to this was already in place for warrantless surveillance, the FISA courts, which have become a rubber stamp. These systems that are supposed to be a check on state power eventually become far too comfortable with the agencies they are supposed to have an adversarial relationship with.
I don't have any experience in this area, but how would one know that the FISA courts are a rubber stamp, as opposed to the requests being brought to the court being only the most reasonable and well-defined ones?
It seems like from the outside the observable effect would be the same (high warrant-granting rate), but the reality between the two is very different.
Re: The FBI’s most controversial surveillance tool is under threat
#7Why aren’t these people in prison? They broke the law and committed crimes. Is it connections or is it that they have some sort of immunity?
Blue-collar actions are found to be criminal. White-collar actions are found to be unlawful and stopped. Government or politician actions are found to be unlawful and continue.
Re: The FBI’s most controversial surveillance tool is under threat
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#9Earlier quoted context omitted.
A system similar to this was already in place for warrantless surveillance, the FISA courts, which have become a rubber stamp. These systems that are supposed to be a check on state power eventually become far too comfortable with the agencies they are supposed to have an adversarial relationship with.
I don't have any experience in this area, but how would one know that the FISA courts are a rubber stamp, as opposed to the requests being brought to the court being only the most reasonable and well-defined ones? It seems like from the outside the observable effect would be the same (high warrant-granting rate), but the reality between the two is very different.
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