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Japan adopts plan to make maximum use of nuclear power
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Re: Japan adopts plan to make maximum use of nuclear power
#92As a German this is quite bizzare to me. Here, our politicians take Fukushima as an example why we should stop nuclear energy. People are scared of nuclear energy. And now Japan goes max nuclear.
That’s why Germany created a dependence on Russian oil, despite being warned by both sides of politics that this would enable Putin, at the whole of Europe’s expense, and kept sending billions to Russia for oil even after the invasion. Trying to keep within the HN guidelines and not writing how I actually feel about Germany for this.
Re: Japan adopts plan to make maximum use of nuclear power
#93Earlier quoted context omitted.
For sure, but not only. The German way - turning off nuclear power to replace it with coal and gas while running token amount of renewables which will never cover the base load (because the required amount of storage would be insane), is very much the dream of traditional coal, gas and oil industries. Yet the Germans argue it is the best way because "what about the waste?!!!111" It is a shame that whole country manag…
Yes, except that political decision making doesn’t reflect public opinion. The majority wants nuclear power back.
I believe you but have a citation? Thanks.
Re: Japan adopts plan to make maximum use of nuclear power
#94Earlier quoted context omitted.
Stop spreading disinformation. Germany not only switched off nuclear plants but reduced its coal use drastically compared to levels 10 years ago. I've posted data on this a billion times, and am too lazy to do it now -- checking the actual data for once before posting an opinion should not be too difficult. Sorry, but this is beyond pitiful.
Stop spreading disinformation. Reduction has been minimal, and now that we no longer have the Russian gas that we used to substitute coal, we are turning coal plants back on . While at the same time shutting down clean nuclear. The mind boggles. Go to https://www.electricitymaps.com On almost every day, Germany is the 2nd least green country in Europe, only after Poland. In 2014, Germany was the largest producer of C…
Here are the official data related to electricity production https://www.umweltbundesamt.de/sites/default/files/medien/38...
Coal are the bottom two things on the chart (brown and gray). Drastically down. Gas use percentage wise is pretty much the same as 10 years ago. Obviously you're making things up.
Germany is also not turning coal plants back on: there were about a dozen coal plants put on stand by this year as an emergency, but they mostly stayed off. The funny part is that the emergency was mostly related to the collapse of nuclear in France where most of the surrounding countries suddenly needed to support it. But in the end renewables made up most of the difference. Here's a Twitter thread with the data https://mobile.twitter.com/CoalFreeDave/status/1620360558255...
Europe needs to get off fossil fuels and it's about to do that really fast. Unnecessary hurdles were removed to make renewable deployment easier. As a consequence there's been a huge uptick in nuclear lobbying and astroturfing - this industry is scared it's about to be made officially irrelevant. All sort of plans are being made but there will be so much new renewable generation by the time this plans are finalized, let alone the decades it will take to get anything done with nuclear, that it will not matter at all.
Re: Japan adopts plan to make maximum use of nuclear power
#95Earlier quoted context omitted.
Stop spreading disinformation. Germany not only switched off nuclear plants but reduced its coal use drastically compared to levels 10 years ago. I've posted data on this a billion times, and am too lazy to do it now -- checking the actual data for once before posting an opinion should not be too difficult. Sorry, but this is beyond pitiful.
How is that reduced coal use going right now? And next winter?
It's going as well as it did. Stop reading headlines with agendas and look at the data. Start here: https://mobile.twitter.com/CoalFreeDave/status/1620360558255...
Re: Japan adopts plan to make maximum use of nuclear power
#96Earlier quoted context omitted.
The majority of Germans want nuclear power back. But politicians don’t want to. Green party has always been against nuclear power. It’s their ideology. And the Merkel’s party who shut them down (CDU) and changed their mind now is no longer on power. German politics bas been ideological madness for the past 18 years or so…
Accusing the Greens of being ideology driven when they have shown to be pragmatic is a joke. Not sticking to any ideology is the reason their politicians top the popularity polls. And wanting something back is one thing, getting something back another. If you want nuclear power back, you must build new plants - good luck, it will only take 20 years! The Green-led BMWK explained in detail the many real hurdles that co…
When you have party refusing nuclear power plants out of fear from radiation and then same party agrees with extending coal mines and coal power plant, which are spitting radioactive waste around environment in uncontrolled manner from ash, then they are purely driven by anti-nuclear ideology.
Re: Japan adopts plan to make maximum use of nuclear power
#97Earlier quoted context omitted.
Do you think we evolved fear by accident? If I were handling a venomous snake I'd be scared to be bit and rightly so. There's no reason to be proud of being heedless of risk.
And what if it was a non-venomous snake, and all the experts tell you it is a non-venomous snake, and it is literally safer than a pet dog. Would you still be scared of handling it because of a pathological fear of snakes? In what way is that adaptive and helpful in a modern era of scientific knowledge?
Well, the setup was you told me people should feel embarrassed to be scared whether or not they support nuclear power. If they accepted the premise you are setting up now — that it is utterly risk-free — why wouldn’t they support it?
Re: Japan adopts plan to make maximum use of nuclear power
#98As a German this is quite bizzare to me. Here, our politicians take Fukushima as an example why we should stop nuclear energy. People are scared of nuclear energy. And now Japan goes max nuclear.
> People are scared of nuclear energy.
"But the people are retarded." [1].
"The proximate cause of the disaster was the 2011 Tōhoku earthquake and tsunami, which occurred on the afternoon of 11 March 2011 and *remains the most powerful earthquake ever recorded in Japan*. The earthquake triggered a powerful tsunami, with 13–14-meter-high waves damaging the nuclear power plant's emergency diesel generators, leading to a loss of electric power. The result was the most severe nuclear accident since the Chernobyl disaster in 1986, classified as level seven on the International Nuclear Event Scale (INES) [...] and thus joining Chernobyl as the only other accident to receive such classification. [...] the INES ranks incidents by impact on population, so Chernobyl (335,000 people evacuated) and Fukushima (154,000 evacuated) [...]" [2]
Man, nuclear's weak. Worst two disasters end with just a few dozen people dead at most and merely a ton of economical damage? A single dam failure and you've got 100 thousand people dead. Coal alone kills 100 thousand people a year. Nuclear needs to step it up.
[1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFgcqB8-AxE
[2]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fukushima_nuclear_disaster
Re: Japan adopts plan to make maximum use of nuclear power
#99Earlier quoted context omitted.
Stop spreading disinformation. Germany not only switched off nuclear plants but reduced its coal use drastically compared to levels 10 years ago. I've posted data on this a billion times, and am too lazy to do it now -- checking the actual data for once before posting an opinion should not be too difficult. Sorry, but this is beyond pitiful.
Not as "drastically" as their nuclear power of course...
Nuclear phase out took over 10 years. Coal phase out kicked off two years ago and will complete by 2038 with a possible goal of 2030.
Re: Japan adopts plan to make maximum use of nuclear power
#100As a German this is quite bizzare to me. Here, our politicians take Fukushima as an example why we should stop nuclear energy. People are scared of nuclear energy. And now Japan goes max nuclear.
As someone in Germany but not German, this aspect of Germany is bizarre to me. You have green energy already and instead of maintaining it or building it out, you build extra coal plants, mine more villages, but shut the green energy down? Huh, interesting choice. I understand the principles behind closing it. The old reactors are not the latest and greatest, there is this fear similar to the fear of flying (you're n…
Wait, global warming is already killing people ??
Weather-related events has killed people since the beginning of times, but I was under the impression global warming was still about predictions of catastrophies.