lol…why would anyone buy this? It is more overpriced than an apple m2 machine.
StarFighter 16 inch: 4K Coreboot/Ryzen Linux laptop
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#122Earlier quoted context omitted.
Netherlands, Germany, Belgium, and more limited experience in Luxembourg. (I've been to more places but honestly don't remember what drink prices were like in Finland ten years ago, let alone remembering what the Icelandic króna prices amounted to when I was there more recently.) It's often not offered because it sounds like asking for a free drink instead of paying ~13 euros per liter which seems to be the average n…
> Those that offer tap water (that's most places) will usually (not always) charge you the same as a normal water, I don't think I'll be able to make sense of what you're saying until you explain what you mean by "normal water". Are you referring to branded bottled water?
Ah, sorry yes, that was bad phrasing on my part. By normal I meant what was on the menu (water that is branded, bottled, shipped, sometimes stolen) instead of my out-of-the-ordinary request (tap water), but calling that the 'normal' is of course a culture-specific way of thinking, and a cultural feature I do not like.
Re: StarFighter 16 inch: 4K Coreboot/Ryzen Linux laptop
#123Earlier quoted context omitted.
Have they actually made one yet? The pictures on the site all look like renders; and I couldn't find any pictures of an actual prototype anywhere.
> Have they actually made one yet? Exactly. No real laptops so far; no videos with honest in-depth reviews; no information on the dirability of these machines. If something is too good to be true, it likely is.
I am typing this on their latest StarBook. It's a great machine. As for durability, it has an aluminium body and seems sturdily built. I expect it to last a good few years.
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#124This Linux laptop looks too good to be true. It's available with an AMD or Intel processor, there aren't any strange ergonomic decisions (other than the stow-able web-cam). In particular, they centered they trackpad + keyboard, and it looks like it has decent thermals. The battery is rated for 18 hours. You can choose between a medium resolution, high frame rate display (UHD @ 165Hz) or a 4K 60Hz display. The screen…
> Am I missing something? Yeah. The company is three people with practically no money at hand. I can't imagine this being real. Check "full accounts made up to 28 February 2022" https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/c... with cash at hand being just 13,887 pounds. How on earth are you making a laptop from that? Framework started with a nine million seed round and had the former head of hardware a…
I have the Byte desktop machine from them. I waited quite a bit for the delivery, but the machine is very nice.
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#125Does anyone here run any of these OSes on any of the offered screen densities and resolutions? I have questions. - Surely not every old program available from the repositories will work with display scaling, will they? I've never had to use it, maybe Xorg has some hack to scale certain windows at 2x so you don't need support from individual packages. I'm also thinking of things like Burp Suite, which have window-like…
> This laptop ships with either double or quadruple that, making me wonder what the trade-off is like of having this (for me) gimmick. Surely it doesn't double/quadruple the battery drain or halve/quarter the performance compared to a normal screen?
From their configuration site:
"The 4K display consumes more power, averaging 8W but provides incredible detail and excellent scaling support that allows you to change the UI (User Interface) to a size that's comfortable for almost everyone.
The QHD display supports a refresh rate of 165Hz, which offers a silky smooth experience. It consumes less than half the power of the 4K display at 3.2W. Limited scaling support on Linux means that the UI on this display is relatively small compared to other display resolutions"
It seems like the QHD display would be the way to go for lower power. I'd guess the power would be lower if you didn't run it at the full 165Hz refresh (there's probably a 60Hz mode)...
Re: StarFighter 16 inch: 4K Coreboot/Ryzen Linux laptop
#126There's a bug on the site where if you select a different amount of RAM, the price doesn't update and when you check your basket it still says 16GB RAM.
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#127If this laptop is real deal, for me, it will be really hard decision which one to buy; StarFighter or Framework.
Practically as upgradable and maintainable/repairable as the framework. They sell all of the components separately, and this runs a fully up-to-date coreboot and even esoteric linux systems get tested on it. It is a significantly better Linux computer.
The StarFighter has soldered memory, making it significantly less upgradeable than the Framework Laptop. (Star Labs also sells the mid-range StarBook with upgradeable memory.) The Framework Laptop also has the advantage of swappable port/storage modules. However, the StarFighter has higher specs than the Framework Laptop at a higher price, and Star Labs is Linux-first while Framework is Windows-first.
Re: StarFighter 16 inch: 4K Coreboot/Ryzen Linux laptop
#128This Linux laptop looks too good to be true. It's available with an AMD or Intel processor, there aren't any strange ergonomic decisions (other than the stow-able web-cam). In particular, they centered they trackpad + keyboard, and it looks like it has decent thermals. The battery is rated for 18 hours. You can choose between a medium resolution, high frame rate display (UHD @ 165Hz) or a 4K 60Hz display. The screen…
> Am I missing something? Yeah. The company is three people with practically no money at hand. I can't imagine this being real. Check "full accounts made up to 28 February 2022" https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/c... with cash at hand being just 13,887 pounds. How on earth are you making a laptop from that? Framework started with a nine million seed round and had the former head of hardware a…
I have one of their machines (a StarBook that I am typing this on), and it is excellent. It probably helps to have a $9m seed round -- certainly it means Framework can do much more marketing (including such as the Steam Deck stunt) and hire more people -- and I'm sure it's easier to raise those funds from the US, but it is clearly not necessary. I hope that Star Labs does well enough that they are able to expand, raise funding if they wish, and compete with better capitalized companies.
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#129Who is this targeting besides the 100 or so hackernews commenters who will actually go through and buy it. Why would I buy this over a lenovo for instance. Okay so privacy nuts who think that removing their webcam and microphone protects from the perceived spyware that is next to them on their desk in the form of an iPhone. I see nothing good about this. Inexperienced company, inexperienced in manufacturing and hardw…
> Okay so privacy nuts who think that removing their webcam and microphone protects from the perceived spyware that is next to them on their desk in the form of an iPhone.
Not sure about your work, but in my field pretty much every person I know who works in industry has their camera taped over. I believe for lots of them this is actually company policy.
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#130Needs a little red nub in the center of the keyboard.
The HP DevOne has one. Shame about that washed-out glossy screen (some say it has a built-in privacy filter).