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David Guetta uses ChatGPT and uberduck.ai to deepfake Eminem rap for DJ set

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Re: David Guetta uses ChatGPT and uberduck.ai to deepfake Eminem rap for DJ set

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Post by antoniuschan99 »

justaj wrote: post #156
citizenkeen wrote: post #141

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As Guetta notes on Twitter, he's not releasing this commercially. Both hip hop and EDM have a huge culture of sampling live things they couldn't sample and release on an album. Eminem has rapped over songs he doesn't own at concerts.

> As Guetta notes on Twitter, he's not releasing this commercially. Yet he used it on stage, on a gig he's getting paid for. How is that not using it commercially?

He mentioned what he did in the video. Pretty sure he went on ChatGPT and asked it for some lyrics in the style of Eminem and on Future Rave.

Copied & pasted the lyrics in an AI voice generator and probably had to use some Eminem acapellas to train it.

There's plenty of AI Voice generators I watched a segment on one a few days ago https://youtu.be/OEoU9k5hApM?t=1061

Re: David Guetta uses ChatGPT and uberduck.ai to deepfake Eminem rap for DJ set

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Post by fshbbdssbbgdd »

justaj wrote: post #156
citizenkeen wrote: post #141

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As Guetta notes on Twitter, he's not releasing this commercially. Both hip hop and EDM have a huge culture of sampling live things they couldn't sample and release on an album. Eminem has rapped over songs he doesn't own at concerts.

> As Guetta notes on Twitter, he's not releasing this commercially. Yet he used it on stage, on a gig he's getting paid for. How is that not using it commercially?

I think if the venue is paying ASCAP/BMI, then the DJ can play a recording from that entire catalog. That probably doesn’t apply to an AI-generated track, but it’s how recording artists are generally compensated for appearing in a DJ set.

Re: David Guetta uses ChatGPT and uberduck.ai to deepfake Eminem rap for DJ set

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Post by lern_too_spel »

DeRock wrote: post #170
nashashmi wrote: post #108

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Those things advanced average people’s reach. This is not doing that.

The internet broke down the barriers to content distribution. AI will break down the barriers to content creation. The future will not be "look I made an AI song that millions of people are listening to!" but will be "AI create and play me a song of my favorite rapper overlaid onto of my favorite techno genre" and you'll just listen to it yourself.

Today, right now, you can have a language model create lyrics to "AI killed the Internet star," a TTS model sing it in the style of The Buggles, and a single channel blind source separation model replace the voice track. Tomorrow, you will just talk to your voice assistant running an action transformer to have it done for you.

Re: David Guetta uses ChatGPT and uberduck.ai to deepfake Eminem rap for DJ set

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Post by jameshart »

fshbbdssbbgdd wrote: post #172
justaj wrote: post #156

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> As Guetta notes on Twitter, he's not releasing this commercially. Yet he used it on stage, on a gig he's getting paid for. How is that not using it commercially?

I think if the venue is paying ASCAP/BMI, then the DJ can play a recording from that entire catalog. That probably doesn’t apply to an AI-generated track, but it’s how recording artists are generally compensated for appearing in a DJ set.

Yes, that is rather the point.

If he used an actual Eminem track or lyric he would be covered by venue ASCAP licensing. As it is he used a clip that he made himself using an online tool based on a lyric that OpenAI randomly generated, that means it’s probably not even copyrightable, so has no rights issues (unless maybe he breached the ToS of any of the services he used to generate it?) and is certainly not sharing in commercial proceeds with the artist impersonated.

And so the question is… is that okay?

Re: David Guetta uses ChatGPT and uberduck.ai to deepfake Eminem rap for DJ set

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Post by Tozen »

BaculumMeumEst wrote: post #74
williamcotton wrote: post #42

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But that’s in a commercial setting, this is during a musical performance. The audience was not tricked into showing up to an Eminem performance and were not tricked into thinking that Eminem was on stage at any point. This is protected speech.

> But that’s in a commercial setting, this is during a musical performance. This means he wasn’t paid for the performance, is that correct? Because otherwise doing it for paid performances and promoting it on social media but saying “it’s not commercial bro” doesn’t seem very genuine

The fact that "doesn't seem very genuine" was written is deeply depressing. https://youtu.be/LLFhKaqnWwk

Re: David Guetta uses ChatGPT and uberduck.ai to deepfake Eminem rap for DJ set

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Post by nailer »

williamcotton wrote: post #84
cj wrote: post #81

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Whether it's the band or the venue paying, someone is paying (which is the point).

Yeah, but only for the songs covered, not any originals that the cover band did in the style of anyone else. Which is the point.

> originals that the cover band did in the style of anyone else

Interesting. I guess you consider the use of Eminem’s voice to be an ‘in the style of’. I think, being trained on Eminem songs, it’s more like a sample.

Re: David Guetta uses ChatGPT and uberduck.ai to deepfake Eminem rap for DJ set

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Post by ahoya »

tinus_hn wrote: post #148
ahoya wrote: post #87

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Which is completely illegal without permission from the artist they sample.

In reality just like a DJ doesn’t need to go and get permission for each record they play, they just pay a blanket fee for that.

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Re: David Guetta uses ChatGPT and uberduck.ai to deepfake Eminem rap for DJ set

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Post by thatswrong0 »

prepend wrote: post #65
thatswrong0 wrote: post #25

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I mean.. there’s a reason that others haven’t really done this as far as I know and that he only used a tiny sample for a couple seconds: the output from AI voice generation generally has a ton of artifacts and isn’t something you’d want to play on a festival sized sound system for more than a few seconds. So he basically did the only acceptable thing I’d consider doing with this and.. it’s just not that interesting?

It’s certainly your prerogative to not find it interesting and your feelings are valid. However, I think it’s interesting and can’t wait to see more djs and even new artists using this technique to create some neat art. And of course, it looks like there are tens of thousands of fans in that stadium who seemed kind of interesting. I don’t think statistical sanity is a good measure for value, especially art, but I don…

I understand that. But he's making a big deal out of using literally the two easiest tools out there to generate... a tiny awkward two second soundbite in a set. I just timed myself and it took me less than two minutes to do the same thing. Might take longer if you need to sign up first.

And this isn't to say that the time it takes to do something is important - the idea of course matters too. But the idea itself isn't original. And the result is just a TINY soundbite.

So it's just straight up not interesting from a production nor listening perspective, especially given the fact there are people out there doing much more creative, involved, and interesting things in the realm of AI assisted production. For example: https://twitter.com/thisiscyclops/status/1619085469198721038...

If David Guetta wasn't a big DJ, no one would care about this.

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