Update: NORAD and U.S. Northern Command confirmed the TFR put in place and later rescinded over Havre, Montana was in response to a "radar anomaly" that it sent fighter aircraft to investigate. Those aircraft did not identify any object to correlate to the radar hits, and NORAD is still monitoring the situation.
U.S. Representative Comments on New “Object” over Montana
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#12Anyone else feel like we aren't getting the whole story here?
No, I feel like we are jumping with both feet to conclusions rather than gathering data and then evaluating.
> jumping with both feet to conclusions
What conclusions?
I'd actually like to see some conclusions. So far all we have is 'objects'.
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#13Interesting flight patterns over the Dakotas/MN border, not like we have anything near Grand Forks that anyone would care about.......
Seriously, why are there a few dozen "UofND" planes flying about right now?
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#14Interesting flight patterns over the Dakotas/MN border, not like we have anything near Grand Forks that anyone would care about....... Seriously, why are there a few dozen "UofND" planes flying about right now? https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=ab6866
Couldn’t possibly be the UND Flight School program.
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#15Anyone else feel like we aren't getting the whole story here?
I feel like we have a couple of weird but completely plausible events involving balloons. And now everyone is thinking about it, so people start noticing it more.
Isn’t this a well-studied behaviour? X happens and suddenly lots of people are calling in about X.
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#16Earlier quoted context omitted.
No, I feel like we are jumping with both feet to conclusions rather than gathering data and then evaluating.
> jumping with both feet to conclusions What conclusions? I'd actually like to see some conclusions. So far all we have is 'objects'.
"Reported" objects. On a complex radar system which has filters in the process of being re-tuned, because of concern things have been missed but now, there are more false positives: radar is complicated and weather, dust, floating metallised party balloons, insects, migrating birds can generate signals.
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#17Anyone else feel like we aren't getting the whole story here?
Yeah, it's a big distraction from other, non-balloon important world events that we should be focusing on, of which there are many. These balloons taking over the news cycle for days on end eats into peoples precious attention spans. Suddenly balloons are the hottest thing to focus on right now though.
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#18From the tweet: "I am in direct contact with NORCOM and monitoring the latest issue over Havre and the northern border. Airspace is closed due to an object that could interfere with commercial air traffic — the DOD will resume efforts to observe and ground the object in the morning." Seems like they are waiting to shoot it down in the morning.
Why is a member of Congress commenting and not the DOD or the Governor of Montana? Is someone spilling classified information to show off?
It's worth noting that in the US government hierarchy, the United States Congress is superior to the Department of Defense. Why? Because they (both House and Senate) write the laws stating who and what the DoD is, the House funds the DoD, and the Senate confirms appointments of officers.
Specifically with regards to Matt Rosendale, he is a Representative from Montana. He is in a position where he can demand (and will get, within reason) information from the US military and represent Montana in demanding and publicizing said information.
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#19Anyone else feel like we aren't getting the whole story here?
Yeah, it's a big distraction from other, non-balloon important world events that we should be focusing on, of which there are many. These balloons taking over the news cycle for days on end eats into peoples precious attention spans. Suddenly balloons are the hottest thing to focus on right now though.
https://newsasfacts.com/
Even my most unbiased source of news can’t come up with much distraction-worthy news outside of a small kerfuffle in the Philippines.
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#20Anyone else feel like we aren't getting the whole story here?
I don’t understand what’s so interesting about a spy balloon anyway. Doesn’t China already have satellites in orbit able to take high resolution pictures anywhere in the country anyway?