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Students suing elite U.S. colleges seek 'wealth favoritism' information

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#31

I think federal funding should be contingent on full transparency of everything. You do not get money unless everything is disclosed.

Hedge funds with a college attached aren’t beholden to federal dollars. Edit: I stand corrected, and I rescind my assertion. https://www.openthebooks.com/assets/1/7/Oversight_IvyLeagueI...

There’s only one reputable college in America that is free of federal funding - Hillsdale College.

All the others take federal money in some way, shape, or form.

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#32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think cancel culture is worse at lower ranking institutions. It's hard to think of any notable recent incidents at top universities. Could be wrong.

UC Berkeley in particular has embarrassed itself and the legacy of Free Speech by hissing, screaming attacks on several individuals in public, to drown out their voices. Combine that with other very active culture-wars elements (not mentioned now) and this grand institution is now wetting the bed, so to speak.

What is the solution? To limit the free speech of the ones doing the screaming?

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#33

I think federal funding should be contingent on full transparency of everything. You do not get money unless everything is disclosed.

Let’s be careful with this kind of thinking. I accepted federal funding in the form of student loans, should they get full transparency for everything in my life as well? I drive on federally funded roads, should they get recording devices to see and hear my every move?

If you are receiving government support for your benefit, no. If you are receiving government support to provide benefits to others, yes.

Re: Students suing elite U.S. colleges seek 'wealth favoritism' information

#34

Universities these days seem to contain a lot of social gangs, roaming around, looking to see where they can exert power and influence. Generally through outrage and cancelling of others. Truly, this is not what university is supposed to be.

That's literally what university has been for hundreds of years if not since medieval times. Practically any social movement or organisation of relevance can trace their roots back to an academic society largely from elite schools.

Re: Students suing elite U.S. colleges seek 'wealth favoritism' information

#35
Isn’t part of the benefit of getting into these universities the fact that you get to interact with people from a wealthier economic class? You have the opportunity to meet people who can invest in your ventures or who can introduce you to people who can.

Re: Students suing elite U.S. colleges seek 'wealth favoritism' information

#36

To the people complaining about this: this is actually a very positive development that I welcome and you should too. This entire time, elite U.S. colleges have been carefully steering conversations about admissions in the direction of racial quotas, to avoid talking about how by far the largest driver of unfairness in the admissions process is legacy admissions and donation quid pro quo arrangements. If you want to…

I agree but I’m always wondering how admissions departments and those who are in charge benefit from donations. I understand bribery, but this is a bit different. If the money goes to universities for a donation, do people somehow get rewarded for this?

The charitable read is that large donations and perennial benefactors are good for the school, and admissions considers the welfare of the school in addition to other factors.

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#38

Isn’t part of the benefit of getting into these universities the fact that you get to interact with people from a wealthier economic class? You have the opportunity to meet people who can invest in your ventures or who can introduce you to people who can.

not if they took your seat

Re: Students suing elite U.S. colleges seek 'wealth favoritism' information

#39

To the people complaining about this: this is actually a very positive development that I welcome and you should too. This entire time, elite U.S. colleges have been carefully steering conversations about admissions in the direction of racial quotas, to avoid talking about how by far the largest driver of unfairness in the admissions process is legacy admissions and donation quid pro quo arrangements. If you want to…

Imagine what would happen if colleges fired their admissions departments, set aside all considerations of wealth and race, and had a database admit students with a single query on a result of standardized test results ordered from highest score to lowest, accepting students in that order until the year's class was filled.

Then we'd have heavy cramming, less fun, suicides and pressure like china south Korea or Japan. For better or worst.
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